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Is Islam really a religion of Peace?

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
@Alan McDougall
Peace be on you.
To answer your debate like points, one has to answer but the problem is this is a DIR and by rules, here debate cannot be done, in a DIR only respectful questions can be asked. The issues you are talking, have been answered right in these RF forums.

My friendly request to you is to please take your misunderstanding based questions to Religious debate or General debate or General discussion sections so that they can be answered.

Hope you do not mind.
Thanks.
 
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Tomorrows_Child

Active Member
Also, yes, Islam is a religion of peace. We are constantly reminded by the Quran and the life of Prophet Muhammad PBUH to strive towards peace whenever possible.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Depends.

Muslims who accept the Quran as 100% literal and true are not following a peaceful religion.
Muslims who are willing to accept and reform their beliefs to a certain degree may or may not be.
Depends on the practitioner, as all religions do.

The quran definitely has some things I would not consider peaceful to say the least.
Painful truths
Yahweh wants you dead
Allah wants you dead
Allah wants Yahweh dead and vice versa
Jesus Gods bessy mate wants you alive .
For any intelligent believer , the other two are no brainer ,
God is about sustainability the others destruction .
Painful truth preservation and protection can sometimes force a good thing bad.
World not ready for no religion , mystism will always make us wonder what if .
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Perhaps it would be smarter to evaluate what the believers are believing in and not judging all sects of one religion with many deviations based on a handful of passages most followers would not support.
I know the written laws of each in practice today .Was not a lucky dip )
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
I don't think God is religious at all and he must find it hugely amusing to see all the silly ways we have invented to please and worship him.

Why people have to sing praises to tell Almighty God how great he is when he knows this as a fact and does not need his ego continually brushed all the time to confirm what is obvious.?

The simple fact is he is Almighty while he knows it and does not have to be told by feeble finite beings like we humans that he is the Greatest.

Unlike the boxer Muhammad Ali, Almighty God does not need to shout out "I am the greatest I told you so" it is just an obvious fact his reality. (All this assuming of course that God exists)

My quote, "The truth is the truth remains the truth no matter what we believe or do not believe, even in total ignorance the truth is the truth!

We must know what we do not know (And admit it)

Regards Alan

Peace be on you.
Worship of God is not for the benefit of God, it is for the benefit of human. Remembrance of God and pondering over His attributes during the prayer helps a believer in several ways. Such a person gets revival of his or her spirit, they get it in more into harmony with the nature of God. This is central to the Islamic prayer.

Human is made in the image of his Creator. A believer tries to imbibe God’s attribute at human level. They love God, His remembrance keep their love alight. Worship should be such that it should make a worshipper nice and good to God’s creation too. Do not you agree?

Islamic Salaat begins with ‘Allah is greatest’ and ends at ‘Peace be on you with mercy of Allah’.

So a true believer returns from the court of Allah [Prayers] with gift of peace for humanity. If you see some people doing against it [i.e. Praying but doing unrest], think they do not know true Islam.

So simple to gauge!

More about Prayer @ https://www.alislam.org/books/study-of-islam/prayer.html
 
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Yerda

Veteran Member
I don't think it is. I don't think it's the warrior religion that many people seem to think it is either. It is what it is and that varies from Muslim to Muslim with the overwhelming majority of Muslims obviously being peaceful.

The constant stream of threads and posts from arrogant and bitter non-Muslims ranging from anger about ancient texts to outright anti-Muslim bigotry makes me wonder how any Muslim can stand to spend time speaking with us here.
 

Grumpuss

Active Member
Why not find a copy of the Qu'ran and read it for yourself? I've read it, along with the Hadiths, and I've got a few opinions, but they aren't appropriate to voice here since my knowledge of Islam is purely academic.
It would probably depend on how strict a reading of the Qu'ran (or even Bible) you are making. Most believers are peaceful and prefer the peaceful parts of Scripture. Undeniably, the parts justifying war and killing are there too. Really I think it just comes down to how much you love and trust in God, for He will guide your hand.
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
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The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule..........the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.

........it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.

ANSWERS BASED ON AHMADIYYA-MUSLIM UNDERSTANDINGS
Peace be on you.
If Quran meant to fight and kill all of non-Muslims, then why are many verses praising pious people of previous religions, though it call itself the final and perfect message. But it acknowledges pious people of other previous religions too.
For example:
[1:2] All praise belongs to Allah, Lord of all people / all the worlds,

[2:63] Surely, the Believers, and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians — whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds — shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall comeupon them, nor shall they grieve.

[4:163] But those among them who are firmly grounded in knowledge, and the believers, believe in what has been sent down to thee and what was sent down before thee, and especially those who observe Prayer and those who pay the Zakat and those who believe in Allah and the Last Day. To these will We surely give a great reward.

[5:84] And when they hear what has been revealed to this Messenger, thou seest their eyes overflow with tears, because of the truth which they have recognized. They say, ‘Our Lord, we believe, so write us down among those who bear witness.

[7:160] And of the people of Moses there is a party that exhorts people to truth and does justice therewith.

[22:18]As to those who believe, and the Jews, and the Sabians, and the Christians, and the Magians and the idolaters, verily, Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection; surely Allah is Witness over all things.

War related verses are specific cases. Remember Islam when Arabs were embroiled in non ending wars. Did it came start more wars? Think please, if you may!

You may read details about such war related verses at
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/guide.htm?region=E1



Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy, along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.
Balance what?
As mentioned above, war-verses are not for 24/7. At that early times, Muslims were being attacked, after long patience of 13 years they were asked for defence, that is it.
[22:40] Permission to fight is given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged — and Allah indeed has power to help them —

[22:41] Those who have been driven out from their homes unjustly only because they said, ‘Our Lord is Allah’ — And if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated. And Allah will surely help one who helps Him. Allah is indeed Powerful, Mighty —

[22:42] Those who, if We establish them in the earth, will observe Prayer and pay the Zakat and enjoin good and forbid evil. And with Allah rests the final issue of all affairs.

Fights after Holy Prophet (pbuh) and four Khalifs were mainly because when people accepted Islam in huge numbers in little time, many were not able to get proper training in morals and patience, which caused subsequent problems.

However, as one believes, you have chance to study revival of Islam now in the form of Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam, the second phase of progress through faith, prayers, pen and good acts.

Two Hundred Verses about Compassionate Living in the Quran
http://themuslimtimes.info/2013/10/29/three-hundred-verses-about-compassionate-living-in-the-quran/
 
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McBell

Unbound
Is Islam really a religion of peace?
Depends upon the Muslim.

Just like with so many other religions, there are those who use Islam to justify their their wanting to be violent, hateful, etc.
Just like there are those who use Islam to justify their peaceful, giving, etc.
 

Buttercup

Veteran Member
I don't think it is. I don't think it's the warrior religion that many people seem to think it is either. It is what it is and that varies from Muslim to Muslim with the overwhelming majority of Muslims obviously being peaceful.

The constant stream of threads and posts from arrogant and bitter non-Muslims ranging from anger about ancient texts to outright anti-Muslim bigotry makes me wonder how any Muslim can stand to spend time speaking with us here.
Agreed. I've thought the same thought many times myself.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
There is no yes or no answer to that question. People whose heart honors peace, find all religions preach peace. Those whose nature is fanatical find justification for their fanaticism.

Jesus brought a sword not peace, Judaism destroyed peoples, Islam waged war, Hinduism has war at its basis if you read those scriptures looking for justifications for war. And the reverse is true as well.

9/11 motivated me to study Islam, compare various translations of the Quran, the differences between groups in authenticating Hadith, how scholars synthesize all this into a coherent picture and so forth.

One thing that surprised me is how the names of God (attributes) are the basis of the Quran, at least as I read it. From Wikipedia I found that two names stand out by repetition: Ar-Rahman The Exceedingly Compassionate, The Exceedingly Beneficent, The Exceedingly Gracious (to all of humanity and all creatures) and Ar-Rahim: The Exceedingly Merciful
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Those two Names of God, repeated so often in the Quran, guided my view of the root basis of Islam as it should be not as it's practiced by terrorists and fanatics today.
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
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One thing that surprised me is how the names of God (attributes) are the basis of the Quran, at least as I read it. From Wikipedia I found that two names stand out by repetition: Ar-Rahman The Exceedingly Compassionate, The Exceedingly Beneficent, The Exceedingly Gracious (to all of humanity and all creatures) and Ar-Rahim: The Exceedingly Merciful
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Those two Names of God, repeated so often in the Quran, guided my view of the root basis of Islam as it should be not as it's practiced by terrorists and fanatics today.
Peace be on you.

A German remained with terrorists, He said he reminded the fighters that most chapters of the Koran began with the words "Allah... most merciful".

"I asked: Where is the mercy? I never got the real answer."
Source: BBC News - Rare Islamic State visit reveals 'brutal and strong' force
 
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