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Is Islam the only big religion that condemns everyone else to hell?

Lucian Hodoboc

Lucian Hodoboc

Member
As far as I'm aware, there are several Christian denominations that accept the idea that non-Christians might be able to find a way to salvation through works alone even if they don't accept Jesus Christ as their savior or if they doubt Him or if they worship different Gods. There are several Bible verses that might be interpreted to support this idea. Some denominations consider that there are different degrees of being saved, that some people will be allowed to be kept in Purgatory or in a place distant from God's presence until Christ's return when they will be given a second chance to accept God, but that place may not necessarily be hell if they have lived righteous lives according to the commandments 2 to 10.

Judaism has no clear doctrine in regards to hell and whether all non-Jews are damned in the afterlife.

Hinduism considers that non-Hindus can make spiritual progress and might luck out being reborn as Hindus in a future life and are not damned to eternal hell.

Buddhism does not hold a belief in hell and does not condemn non-Buddhists to an afterlife in hell.

Shinto's views on the afterlife is diverse and fluctuates between beliefs in a place of the spirits and reincarnation, but it does not state that people of other religions go to hell.

So, is Islam the only big religion that holds the firm belief that literally everyone who has heard about Islam and has not become a Muslim will be condemned to eternity in hell, regardless of their actions in this life? Muhammad says that there are no exceptions, not even for his parents.
 
Mister Silver

Mister Silver

Faith's Nightmare
Give Islam a bit more time to evolve, that is if it can properly meld with the world without destroying it.

The thing is that religious thinking evolves. Religious people today do not think in the same way that religious people in the past were taught to think. If we were to go back in time, one would be hard pressed to find a Christian who thought that non-christians were not going to hell.
 
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Sanzbir

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"Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans - those who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve." Quran 2:62

So no, not really.

And sure there are those who stick the words "[before Prophet Muhammad]" after the word "Sabeans" when they translate it into English, but that's not there in the Arabic.

The people who add "[before Prophet Muhammad]" into the translation are doing so foolishly anyways, since Islam states that those Christians and Jews before Muhammad were "Muslims", meaning they were "people who submitted to God". So if, as the translators say, "[before Prophet Muhammad]" needs to be specified, it does not make sense that the book would need to specify that those Christians and Jews go to Heaven, when it already stated that Muslims are going to Heaven, and that those people before the coming of Muhammad count as "Muslims" anyways.

So for the kinds of Muslims who accept that addition to the text in that translation, maybe, but for every person in that religion as a whole?? Not really.
 
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Rational Agnostic

Rational Agnostic

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Lucian Hodoboc said:
As far as I'm aware, there are several Christian denominations that accept the idea that non-Christians might be able to find a way to salvation through works alone even if they don't accept Jesus Christ as their savior or if they doubt Him or if they worship different Gods. There are several Bible verses that might be interpreted to support this idea. Some denominations consider that there are different degrees of being saved, that some people will be allowed to be kept in Purgatory or in a place distant from God's presence until Christ's return when they will be given a second chance to accept God, but that place may not necessarily be hell if they have lived righteous lives according to the commandments 2 to 10.

Judaism has no clear doctrine in regards to hell and whether all non-Jews are damned in the afterlife.

Hinduism considers that non-Hindus can make spiritual progress and might luck out being reborn as Hindus in a future life and are not damned to eternal hell.

Buddhism does not hold a belief in hell and does not condemn non-Buddhists to an afterlife in hell.

Shinto's views on the afterlife is diverse and fluctuates between beliefs in a place of the spirits and reincarnation, but it does not state that people of other religions go to hell.

So, is Islam the only big religion that holds the firm belief that literally everyone who has heard about Islam and has not become a Muslim will be condemned to eternity in hell, regardless of their actions in this life? Muhammad says that there are no exceptions, not even for his parents.
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I don't know what Christian denomination you belong to, but, most of the Christians I know believe that all non-believers go to hell.
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Also, as far as Islam goes


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Theweirdtophat

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
I don't think any of them originally said that, but it was twisted later on. That happened with early Christianity too. I mean if you think about it, it doesn't make sense for a peaceful religion to condemn people like that. It makes more sense that people took these religions and twisted them for their own purposes.
 
lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Lucian Hodoboc said:
As far as I'm aware, there are several Christian denominations that accept the idea that non-Christians might be able to find a way to salvation through works alone even if they don't accept Jesus Christ as their savior or if they doubt Him or if they worship different Gods. There are several Bible verses that might be interpreted to support this idea. Some denominations consider that there are different degrees of being saved, that some people will be allowed to be kept in Purgatory or in a place distant from God's presence until Christ's return when they will be given a second chance to accept God, but that place may not necessarily be hell if they have lived righteous lives according to the commandments 2 to 10.

Judaism has no clear doctrine in regards to hell and whether all non-Jews are damned in the afterlife.

Hinduism considers that non-Hindus can make spiritual progress and might luck out being reborn as Hindus in a future life and are not damned to eternal hell.

Buddhism does not hold a belief in hell and does not condemn non-Buddhists to an afterlife in hell.

Shinto's views on the afterlife is diverse and fluctuates between beliefs in a place of the spirits and reincarnation, but it does not state that people of other religions go to hell.

So, is Islam the only big religion that holds the firm belief that literally everyone who has heard about Islam and has not become a Muslim will be condemned to eternity in hell, regardless of their actions in this life? Muhammad says that there are no exceptions, not even for his parents.
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There is just too much variance of belief within the religions in this area to make any strong comments about them as a whole.
Better to consider the particular beliefs of denominations.
Two Christians could easily disagree on God's plan for me when I die.
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
What Hell? We already had Obama and now Trump. How much more of a living Hell can there be? :D
 
Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Sanzbir said:
"Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans - those who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve." Quran 2:62

So no, not really.

And sure there are those who stick the words "[before Prophet Muhammad]" after the word "Sabeans" when they translate it into English, but that's not there in the Arabic.

The people who add "[before Prophet Muhammad]" into the translation are doing so foolishly anyways, since Islam states that those Christians and Jews before Muhammad were "Muslims", meaning they were "people who submitted to God". So if, as the translators say, "[before Prophet Muhammad]" needs to be specified, it does not make sense that the book would need to specify that those Christians and Jews go to Heaven, when it already stated that Muslims are going to Heaven, and that those people before the coming of Muhammad count as "Muslims" anyways.

So for the kinds of Muslims who accept that addition to the text in that translation, maybe, but for every person in that religion as a whole?? Not really.
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That would still leave all the non-Abrahamic religions, and non-believers, going to hell.

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Ingledsva

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
sunrise123 said:
Also, as far as Islam goes
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A very interesting conversation.

However he still makes differentiation between people that have heard the spiel and don't believe it, and mercy for those that haven't heard.

He also splits Atheists into two groups, those whom have researched, or not, - and don't believe, and those whom are researching - and haven't found an answer yet.

Those from both groups whom have heard, and choose not to follow, - are still assigned to the Hell pile.

But it is good to hear the idea of mercy and internal intent being discussed.

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