Is it ever okay to steal?

[3.14]

its perfectly ok to steal music and games as long as you don't physicly steal them

 

[McBell]

IMO it depends upon the circumstances.
IF you are stealing something you do not need, then I disagree with it.
If you are stealing something, I.E. food, yet have the means to pay for it, then I disagree with the theft.

If you are stealing something you need because you have not the means to pay for it, then although it is still theft, I MIGHT agree with it.

Please keep in mind that these scenarios are all subjective to the circumstances of each individual case.

 

[linwood]

Please keep in mind that these scenarios are all subjective to the circumstances of each individual case.

Agreed but that`s what all morality is isn`t it?

 

[science_is_my_god]

Is it okay to steal? That would depend on how you define "okay."

 

[McBell]

Agreed but that`s what all morality is isn`t it?

As far as I can ascertain, yes.

 

[whereismynotecard]

It's okay to steal. Like Robin Hood. Or maybe if you steal from a huge corperation who won't even notice. Like why does walmart need so much money when I can't get half as much by working really hard? Here's the things I've stolen:

Gum
English text book
pens
arts and craft gems
lemonade
chalk
a Tangle toy
Lolly pop(but I had to give it back, because my sister told on me)

I can't think of anything else. But I don't steal things from people who will notice they're gone or from people who are poor. Like, I wouldn't steal money from my grandma, or I wouldn't steal someone's favourite book or something. Just things I want that I know no one will miss, and usually from places like Walmart.

 

[Father Heathen]

I steal all the time.







People's hearts, that is.

 

[Comicaze247]

I think it's okay to steal a kiss from your significant other

I steal sometimes, but only small things in retribution. Don't you hate it when roommates eat your food without asking? Also, my gf's roommate is a total ***** (I'll spare the details), so I ate her ice cream

 

[Troublemane]

The only time its ok is when its sanctioned by congress, and you are a CEO for a huge company, like AIG or Bear Sterns, and the amount is in the billions. THEN its just fine.

 

[rusra02]

"Unrighteous Persons will not inherit God's kingdom. Neither fornicators,...nor thieves.. will inherit God's kingdom. - 1 corinthians 6:9,10

"Let the stealer steal no more, but rather let him do hard work, doing with his hands what is good work, that he may have something to distribute to someone in need" - Ephesians 4:28

A person who steals can and should repent and avoid a practice of stealing. Having need does not make stealing OK, just as threats of physical harm to us from a wicked person does not give us an excuse to violate God's laws to avoid harm to ourselves.

 

[Father Heathen]

"Unrighteous Persons will not inherit God's kingdom. Neither fornicators,...nor thieves.. will inherit God's kingdom. - 1 corinthians 6:9,10

"Let the stealer steal no more, but rather let him do hard work, doing with his hands what is good work, that he may have something to distribute to someone in need" - Ephesians 4:28

A person who steals can and should repent and avoid a practice of stealing. Having need does not make stealing OK, just as threats of physical harm to us from a wicked person does not give us an excuse to violate God's laws to avoid harm to ourselves.

You know a religion is fairly worthless when it goes against even self preservation.

 

[McBell]

"Unrighteous Persons will not inherit God's kingdom. Neither fornicators,...nor thieves.. will inherit God's kingdom. - 1 corinthians 6:9,10

"Let the stealer steal no more, but rather let him do hard work, doing with his hands what is good work, that he may have something to distribute to someone in need" - Ephesians 4:28

A person who steals can and should repent and avoid a practice of stealing. Having need does not make stealing OK, just as threats of physical harm to us from a wicked person does not give us an excuse to violate God's laws to avoid harm to ourselves.

So you are better off starving to death than stealing food?
So much the "Sanctity of Life"

You know a religion is fairly worthless when it goes against even self preservation.

I don't know about 'worthless' but the staggering contradictions presented by some people can really boggle the mind.

 

[Nessa]

"Unrighteous Persons will not inherit God's kingdom. Neither fornicators,...nor thieves.. will inherit God's kingdom. - 1 corinthians 6:9,10

"Let the stealer steal no more, but rather let him do hard work, doing with his hands what is good work, that he may have something to distribute to someone in need" - Ephesians 4:28

A person who steals can and should repent and avoid a practice of stealing. Having need does not make stealing OK, just as threats of physical harm to us from a wicked person does not give us an excuse to violate God's laws to avoid harm to ourselves.

I'm curious why you ignored all the parts of the Bible where it mentions GIVING to the poor or showing compassion?

 

[dawny0826]

But you didn`t answer the question.

Consider the example I gave of a city that was destroyed by disaster.

There was no food, no one had any food to give.

Yet the grocery stores were full of food that was going to rot.

Is it better to steal than to starve?

There are non-profit organizations that do JUST this, during times of disaster. They meet the IMMEDATE needs of individuals and families displaced by disaster by providing food, shelter and clothing.

I know of several organizations I would call before I'd participate in a grocery store riot and take food that doesn't belong to me.

 

[Charity]

Stealing is never really something that can be considered right.
But under some circumstances you don't know what you might have to do to survive like in a disaster. Perhaps is you tried to make restitution when your circumstances change.
My parents taught me that stealing a penny piece of candy was the same as stealing $5, $100 that no matter how much it cost you are still guilty of theft. Even though it is morally wrong I think I would understand how it could mean the difference between life and death in some situations. Circumstances alter different situations.
If you want something ask for it, if they say no then take it anyway.......... Just joking.......

 

[Charity]

I think it's okay to steal a kiss from your significant other
:biglaugh:
I steal sometimes, but only small things in retribution. Don't you hate it when roommates eat your food without asking? Also, my gf's roommate is a total ***** (I'll spare the details), so I ate her ice cream

How about stealing a kiss from someone else's significant other ??? :biglaugh:

 

[dawny0826]

If you prepare adequately for an event, you won't starve during or directly after the event. And when the weather/event clears, unless we're talking something of apocalyptic proportions, help will arrive OR a family can contact their local EOC to inquire about food distribution. That phone call should be made before the event occurs.

I have a problem with people who justify stealing and rioting (which is par for the course, after disasters) when there are other options available to them. Even after Hurricane Katrina, when America saw first hand how important it is to prepare, our nation continues to be complacent. Less than 20% (I think it's less than 10% but I can't find the stats to confirm) of Americans are prepared for the next event. That's sad.

 

[Charity]

I do admit that preparation is essential, sometimes the best laid plans do go astray. If a disaster continues for weeks and say you live out in the country where you now have no automobile, no phone, no food or any way of getting them until someone comes to rescue you. Your neighbor has a cow that is capable of giving the milk that your starving child needs and it has wandered to your location, do you keep the cow using your neighbors possession without his permission or do you let your child starve? Remembering that without the neighbor's consent that using or constraining any of his property would be theft....
Say you start walking and find a house where the people have been critically injured but have an abundant supply of food, do you take the food for your family? Remembering that even though deceased this is someone else's property. Or can you justify and say this is not stealing because it is a question of survival?
That is what I'm wondering where can you draw the line? After all it just depends on what each individual would determine to be real need and self justification for their actions. Would it still be stealing until a time when restitution could be rendered?

 

[dawny0826]

I do admit that preparation is essential, sometimes the best laid plans do go astray. If a disaster continues for weeks and say you live out in the country where you now have no automobile, no phone, no food or any way of getting them until someone comes to rescue you. Your neighbor has a cow that is capable of giving the milk that your starving child needs and it has wandered to your location, do you keep the cow using your neighbors possession without his permission or do you let your child starve? Remembering that without the neighbor's consent that using or constraining any of his property would be theft....
Say you start walking and find a house where the people have been critically injured but have an abundant supply of food, do you take the food for your family? Remembering that even though deceased this is someone else's property. Or can you justify and say this is not stealing because it is a question of survival?
That is what I'm wondering where can you draw the line? After all it just depends on what each individual would determine to be real need and self justification for their actions. Would it still be stealing until a time when restitution could be rendered?

In these situations, Charity, I think it's justifiable to take the supplies that are needed.

 

[Charity]

In these situations, Charity, I think it's justifiable to take the supplies that are needed.

Thank you dawny.....My whole point was trying to say, No I don't believe anyone should steal but I would try to be understanding if something like this happened.
Sometimes even the supplies run out or are destroyed during a natural disaster. When I lived in Florida we bought an ample supply of food enough to sustain us for days along with bottled water. Then we were forced to evacuate during the Hurricane and couldn't take the bulk of the supplies with us because of time constraints placed on us. We had to move to higher ground and was forced to find lodging in a motel where all the stores around were closed. So all my planning was not worth much while we waited out the storm with only a meager supply of food and water......there was only 2 of us, but if my children were small and going hungry, I don't know what might have happened, I thank God I didn't have to find out.....I'm only human and a mother's instincts are to protect her young......