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Is it fair?

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
What did Forrest Gump say? "Life is like a box of chocolates....you never know what you're gonna get"

I agree with Old Badger....the fact that we exist at all is a miracle! Life can be unfair at times but we are not miserable 24/7....there are good times and bad times, no matter who we are. It's all in our attitude and how often we count our blessings....even if they are few.

My husband had a severe neurological condition that eventually took his life....and when he was feeling sorry for himself I used to remind him that he could have this affliction on a dirt floor in a third world country with no medication to ease his symptoms....no heating and not much to eat. The blessings are there but sometimes they are out of focus.
 

Pudding

Well-Known Member
You know what's fair? Everyone will die.

Everything else in life, there's always a better or worser situation if you care to look in both directions.
So it's fair and unfair mix together.

I don't think the word "fair" has much meaning in the billion years of life on this planet. It's a race of things evolving ways to keep getting food and keep not being food.

In the modern context I certainly support personal and political means of keeping social mobility at good levels, though.
It's unfair in the sense of natural survival, but it's good to support fair in the society i guess.

It refers to the subtle mindset that people in different living conditions than us live in only a single way. In the case of people less wealthy than us, that they can only be miserable. A common example is the stereotype of the "starving children in Africa": it's rooted in a good place, but it's actually not helpful to actual poor villages in poor African countries (such as the Congo) because it's easily exploited by scam artists using pictures of them to get you to "send them aid money". (The best way to catch such people is to remember that starving children, like starving adults, don't need money sent to them, they need FOOD, and there's plenty of food donation programs).
Thanks for explain. It's true that people may fear that they'll be scam by false charity.

@ChristineES, @psychoslice, @JayJayDee
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
ATTITUDE.
Let me repeat that as I feel it's important.
ATTITUDE!
I have been beaten near to death in my life.
Listen: I was raised by an alcoholic, rage-aholic father and a mentally disturbed abusive
mother. Dad never hit us (my one sis and I) because he was afraid if he did he'd KILL us.
Mother, my dear old mum, beat us stupid, once scalded me with boiling water
and when I was about five, beat me with wire until I bled!
Both were ignorant racists. Never mind that a black family fed and cared for sis and I when
dad was doing 6 months in JAIL for beating up the local cops!
(the same jail I locked people up in--ain't that a kick?)
Dad hated blacks with a passion even on one occasion shooting at a car load of them
when they stopped arguing in front of our house. I mean like a whole clip of ammo.
When I was in high school I carefully mentioned my desire to attend college.
Dad said, "What? That's for rich, smart, white, boys, not you."
So I knew we were poor but I didn't know I was stupid also.
(I started college at 49 and earned 2 degrees with a 3.7 g.p.a. fooled him huh?)
Got hurt in police work a lot, Have chronic intractable pain 24/7, had a partial
knee replacement that went sour, now that knee is 2X the size ts should be and
aches all day every day.

SO WHAT?
Attitude is EVERYTHING. When I shop and see a person all withered in a wheel chair,
drool dripping down their face I can get real freaking humble real freaking quick!
I WALK. I am in charge of my attitude.
A black man broke my back and crippled me.
Do I hate him? Do I hate blacks?
NO.
Frankly I don't even remember what the guy looks like.

I refuse to let people, places, or things, live rent free in my mind.

Resent means to re-feel. Why would anyone want to re-feel something
negative or painful.

YOU have power. USE IT.
If you are bother by starving people across the globe then donate something.
Take responsibility for you.
Why, oh, why, does my 15 year old son have type1 diabetes?
Why does that most cherished son have to live self injecting 4 X a day
just to stay alive?
It aint' f#cking fair is it?
No it isn't. But he's ALIVE and dealing with this better than am I.
I am grateful the docs caught it in time.
6 more hours and he'd have died.
How grateful I am?

I had a g-friend, now 74, who has a daughter, 41, that is bipolar, paranoid-schizophrenic, and the mother is BLIND.

Anyone else care to whine a bit about life not being freaking fair??
Huh?

When I was a patrolman I responded to a child's call for help.
Getting to the house I found a 40ish year old woman unconscious on the floor all
ashen and gray with her SIX kids looking on.
No pulse, no breath, I ripped her house coat open to start C.P.R.
I couldn't.
There in front of me was a glaring red scare of open heart surgery.
Any pressure on the chest would simply burst her open.
She was already beyond human help anyway but the kids.................they expected
me to save mommy and I couldn't.
That hurt me deeply. I had to tell them to pray for mommy as she was with God
now.
That hurts me to this flipping day. I ain't perfect.


 

Wirey

Fartist
ATTITUDE.
Let me repeat that as I feel it's important.
ATTITUDE!
I have been beaten near to death in my life.
Listen: I was raised by an alcoholic, rage-aholic father and a mentally disturbed abusive
mother. Dad never hit us (my one sis and I) because he was afraid if he did he'd KILL us.
Mother, my dear old mum, beat us stupid, once scalded me with boiling water
and when I was about five, beat me with wire until I bled!
Both were ignorant racists. Never mind that a black family fed and cared for sis and I when
dad was doing 6 months in JAIL for beating up the local cops!
(the same jail I locked people up in--ain't that a kick?)
Dad hated blacks with a passion even on one occasion shooting at a car load of them
when they stopped arguing in front of our house. I mean like a whole clip of ammo.
When I was in high school I carefully mentioned my desire to attend college.
Dad said, "What? That's for rich, smart, white, boys, not you."
So I knew we were poor but I didn't know I was stupid also.
(I started college at 49 and earned 2 degrees with a 3.7 g.p.a. fooled him huh?)
Got hurt in police work a lot, Have chronic intractable pain 24/7, had a partial
knee replacement that went sour, now that knee is 2X the size ts should be and
aches all day every day.

SO WHAT?
Attitude is EVERYTHING. When I shop and see a person all withered in a wheel chair,
drool dripping down their face I can get real freaking humble real freaking quick!
I WALK. I am in charge of my attitude.
A black man broke my back and crippled me.
Do I hate him? Do I hate blacks?
NO.
Frankly I don't even remember what the guy looks like.

I refuse to let people, places, or things, live rent free in my mind.

Resent means to re-feel. Why would anyone want to re-feel something
negative or painful.

YOU have power. USE IT.
If you are bother by starving people across the globe then donate something.
Take responsibility for you.
Why, oh, why, does my 15 year old son have type1 diabetes?
Why does that most cherished son have to live self injecting 4 X a day
just to stay alive?
It aint' f#cking fair is it?
No it isn't. But he's ALIVE and dealing with this better than am I.
I am grateful the docs caught it in time.
6 more hours and he'd have died.
How grateful I am?

I had a g-friend, now 74, who has a daughter, 41, that is bipolar, paranoid-schizophrenic, and the mother is BLIND.

Anyone else care to whine a bit about life not being freaking fair??
Huh?

When I was a patrolman I responded to a child's call for help.
Getting to the house I found a 40ish year old woman unconscious on the floor all
ashen and gray with her SIX kids looking on.
No pulse, no breath, I ripped her house coat open to start C.P.R.
I couldn't.
There in front of me was a glaring red scare of open heart surgery.
Any pressure on the chest would simply burst her open.
She was already beyond human help anyway but the kids.................they expected
me to save mommy and I couldn't.
That hurt me deeply. I had to tell them to pray for mommy as she was with God
now.
That hurts me to this flipping day. I ain't perfect.


But the world owes me so much!

This is why I said life is never fair. We should all get used to it.
 

Wirey

Fartist
Yeah, I hear ya.
The "world" don't owe no one nothing.
We make it what we want it to be.

If you have the cahones you do. The problem is we live in a pussified society where everyone assumes "I want" means "I deserve". How many commercials offering usurious credit terms do you see where they tell the suckers "Get the house/car/furniture/computer you deserve!" The world is filled with morons, and they all look shocked when smart people show up.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
If you have the cahones you do. The problem is we live in a pussified society where everyone assumes "I want" means "I deserve". How many commercials offering usurious credit terms do you see where they tell the suckers "Get the house/car/furniture/computer you deserve!" The world is filled with morons, and they all look shocked when smart people show up.

In the words of a black kid (friend) I grew up with:
"you be right".
" you be da man you iz so right bro".
"dat sh#it ain't kool".
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
There's a song from The Eagles called "Get Over It". ;) (Sorry, this was the only video I could find on youtube)

 

dust1n

Zindīq
Why homeless poor cat/dog/people suffer the hunger, injury, lonely, and pain while some people who've the ability to live a good life wasting their life and resources?

Is it fair?

No, nothing is fair. Just the way god wanted it.
 

Smart_Guy

...
Premium Member
I'm afraid this is the nature of life.

What else can we do but to stay strong and take from it what we have within our grasp? Because if we don't, we will just make it even harder on us, if it is already hard enough.

No, my grandpa... no wait, he's dead :p
 

Pudding

Well-Known Member
I'm not whining about life being unfair.
I understand life is unfair, i'm just asking question.
You know people have different opinion to a question, and different perspective to view a question leads to more different opinion.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I'm not whining about life being unfair.
I understand life is unfair, i'm just asking question.
You know people have different opinion to a question, and different perspective to view a question leads to more different opinion.
I hope you don't think that I posted that video for you: I certainly didn't think you were whining at all. :)
 
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