Is it not wrong to bring children in this world?

[RoaringSilence]

If you are religious (who believes in heaven and hell ) then:

Why should you bring more humans on this planet when we know that there is a great chance they might not be religious and you create a chance for their eternal suffering .
If you stop bringing more people less people will go to hell. and you don't wanna over populate heaven either.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

If you are religious (who believes in heaven and hell ) then:

Why should you bring more humans on this planet when we know that there is a great chance they might not be religious and you create a chance for their eternal suffering .
If you stop bringing more people less people will go to hell. and you don't wanna over populate heaven either.

Yes, it's not wrong.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I'm not religious but it's not hard to take a religious person's view for this.
First of all most Christians don't believe heaven is a physical place with physical resources and physical entities, it can't be overpopulated.
Second, hell as a place of eternal suffering is losing favor in most mainstream Christian churches particularly outside the US. (Though some US denominations have rejected the concept too)
Third, a number of bad things can happen to you every time you walk out your front door. Yet out you go anyway. Living in fear of what could happen (though ironically i believe is a big part of the pathos of the worst of Abrahamic religion) is not a healthy attitude to take towards what they believe is a gift of life.

 

[columbus]

Why should you bring more humans on this planet when we know that there is a great chance they might not be religious and you create a chance for their eternal suffering .

Similarly,
If Heaven is vastly better than life on earth and everyone who dies too young to have possibly sinned goes to Heaven, then wouldn't abortion or infanticide be the ideal child rearing methods? Skip this vale of tears and the risk of damnation, just send your children straight on to be with God?

I'm not suggesting it. But then, I don't believe in that sort of afterlife. I am confident that this life is all we get, so I am opposed to those things. But it's illogical for a traditional Muslim or Christian to do so. Seems rather selfish to me.
Tom

 

[RoaringSilence]

Similarly,
If Heaven is vastly better than life on earth and everyone who dies too young to have possibly sinned goes to Heaven, then wouldn't abortion or infanticide be the ideal child rearing methods? Skip this vale of tears and the risk of damnation, just send your children straight on to be with God?

I'm not suggesting it. But then, I don't believe in that sort of afterlife. I am confident that this life is all we get, so I am opposed to those things. But it's illogical for a traditional Muslim or Christian to do so. Seems rather selfish to me.
Tom

i think we shouldn't even bring more people to life till we have sorted out which religion is true. until then whoever brings children is adding to the problem.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Similarly,
If Heaven is vastly better than life on earth and everyone who dies too young to have possibly sinned goes to Heaven, then wouldn't abortion or infanticide be the ideal child rearing methods? Skip this vale of tears and the risk of damnation, just send your children straight on to be with God?

I'm not suggesting it. But then, I don't believe in that sort of afterlife. I am confident that this life is all we get, so I am opposed to those things. But it's illogical for a traditional Muslim or Christian to do so. Seems rather selfish to me.
Tom

Takes care of sustaining our horrible existence as a species. Everybody want some Kool-ade?

 

[sandy whitelinger]

i think we shouldn't even bring more people to life till we have sorted out which religion is true. until then whoever brings children is adding to the problem.

My religion is true. Anyone who wants to procreate, come see me.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

when you shout out with loud speakers trying to save people from hell .. why do that?

More people hear you with a loudspeaker.

 

[RoaringSilence]

More people hear you with a loudspeaker.

should take that loudspeaker and profess vasectomy, maybe a bigger louder extra strong mega mega mega phone. Infact send that message to outer space and tell aliens to stop having children too.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

should take that loudspeaker and profess vasectomy, maybe a bigger louder extra strong mega mega mega phone. Infact send that message to outer space and tell aliens to stop having children too.

You can. Be careful though, you might need a permit. You don't want to go to jail. I hear they preach a lot of Islam in the joint.

 

[RoaringSilence]

You can. Be careful though, you might need a permit. You don't want to go to jail. I hear they preach a lot of Islam in the loint.

i don't believe in heaven and hell. But if i did my first response would be to not bring any more life to danger. if i were Muslim i would definitely not have kids because being Muslim even doesn't have a guaranteed spot in jannat , unless you take short cuts like martyrdom or you are a 100% correct muslim out of so many sects.

Think about it ... you are gambling with someones future eternity in burning hell , or he might get some virgins .. is life really worth that kind of gamble.. it clearly isnt.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

i don't believe in heaven and hell. But if i did my first response would be to not bring any more life to danger. if i were Muslim i would definitely not have kids because being Muslim even doesn't have a guaranteed spot in jannat , unless you take short cuts like martyrdom or you are a 100% correct muslim out of so many sects.

Think about it ... you are gambling with someones future eternity in burning hell , or he might get some virgins .. is life really worth that kind of gamble.. it clearly isnt.

Do you feel this way because your a troll or is it something else?

 

[RoaringSilence]

Do you feel this way because your a troll or is it something else?

this is a very serious question.. will you gamble with someones life? why do it.. please don't bring more children unless there is 1 religion on the planet.

 

[RoaringSilence]

If your thread is addressed to Christians...well...let's say that Christian countries have the opposite problem, unlike...

yes for us its allowed , but for heaven hell believer its wrong to bring more life.

for hindus you have many lives to evolve yourself , so the more life we bring the more chance we give for human to evolve. but for abrahamic to have children is gambling with a souls future.

 

[RoaringSilence]

 

[Epic Beard Man]

If you are religious (who believes in heaven and hell ) then:

Why should you bring more humans on this planet when we know that there is a great chance they might not be religious and you create a chance for their eternal suffering .
If you stop bringing more people less people will go to hell. and you don't wanna over populate heaven either.

Good question....

It's wrong (and downright delusional) if and only if you believe God to be that malevolent where religion is the sole basis of attaining eternal suffering and pleasure.

It's right because we all have an inclination to reproduce (well, most of us) that is, to have sex. The bringing the children in this world is a personal choice.

 

[RoaringSilence]

Good question....

It's wrong (and downright delusional) if and only if you believe God to be that malevolent where religion is the sole basis of attaining eternal suffering and pleasure.

It's right because we all have an inclination to reproduce (well, most of us) that is, to have sex. The bringing the children in this world is a personal choice.

if by saying one line that x is god and y is the messenger = ticket to heaven. or else hell. or that abc are false gods coz i said so. = deciding factor for the most part of a soul's fate . then it is a gamble if the new person would buy this or not.

and if by doing certain acts you get to heaven or hell.. even so it is a gamble that the new person would follow it or not.

Therefore whichever way one might go to hell. the right thing to do is to reduce the number of people who would have to face this gamble, and not bring more souls to this casino.

Also you will reduce the time taken for judgement on judgement day. By not having more kids you will help speed up the process and those waiting in line will get their judgement faster. You will also reduce fuel cost for hellfire + the cost and effort that goes into giving more and more bodies for suffering . it will reduce the resource cost and will be better for the environment of the cosmos.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

if by saying one line that x is god and y is the messenger = ticket to heaven. or else hell. or that abc are false gods coz i said so. = deciding factor for the most part of a soul's fate . then it is a gamble if the new person would buy this or not.

and if by doing certain acts you get to heaven or hell.. even so it is a gamble that the new person would follow it or not.

Therefore whichever way one might go to hell. the right thing to do is to reduce the number of people who would have to face this gamble, and not bring more souls to this casino.

I just finished writing a 20 page paper...Um can you pretend I'm 5 years old and tell me what this means

 

[RoaringSilence]

I just finished writing a 20 page paper...Um can you pretend I'm 5 years old and tell me what this means

simple. two possibilities for a new born .. either he will believe in god or not. if he/she believes then you increase the population of heaven. if he/she doesn't then you are partly responsible for bringing someone in this predicament. so the safe choice is to not bring more people in "possible" harms way.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If you are religious (who believes in heaven and hell ) then:

Why should you bring more humans on this planet when we know that there is a great chance they might not be religious and you create a chance for their eternal suffering .
If you stop bringing more people less people will go to hell. and you don't wanna over populate heaven either.

it's interesting to note how many religions out there are fertility based.