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Is it OK to make fun of religions?

ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I am done with any conversation that compares James Bond to Jesus.

But, I already said I wouldn't make fun of someone who loved James Bond, even when he is played by Timothy Dalton.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
ChristineES said:
I don't see it. Jesus is a religious icon and is worshiped by people. James Bond is a character in books and movies. There is no comparison, in my opinion in comparing making fun of the two.
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And yet there are people who worship James Bond....

Perhaps if you were to meet some of the people who do worship James Bond you could "see it"?


OASN:
Other than the height of the pedestal, What is the difference?
 
CynthiaCypher

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
Mestemia said:
Other than the height of the pedestal, What is the difference?
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Oh how utterly original! To insinuate that Jesus is a fictional character. Gee-whiz, none of us ever heard anything like that before. How shocking and controversial of you! How ever did you come up with such a radical idea?
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
CynthiaCypher said:
Oh how utterly original! To insinuate that Jesus is a fictional character. Gee-whiz, none of us ever heard anything like that before. How shocking and controversial of you! How ever did you come up with such a radical idea?
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*yawn*
Interesting that you were still unable to answer the question even using 40 words.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Mestemia said:
And yet there are people who worship James Bond....

Perhaps if you were to meet some of the people who do worship James Bond you could "see it"?


OASN:
Other than the height of the pedestal, What is the difference?
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Only in the most bourgeois definition of "worship."

Worship entails so much more than simply "adoration" and "emulation."
 
S

steeltoes

Junior member
sojourner said:
Huh?? Please enlighten us with the name of the actor who "plays" Jesus.:rolleyes:
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Jim Caviezel played Jesus in Gibson's Passion of the Christ.




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Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
sojourner said:
Well, sure. "Self-identifying with a religion" and identifying with the polity of the "machine" is substantively the same as identifying with a political ideology. but that's not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is the self-awareness out of which belief is formed, and out of which the affinities for particular polities are constructed. Make fun of the polities. Don't bully the awareness of self.
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Sorry, but I just don't see how the distinction you're trying to draw has any greater basis than in mere semantics. The psychology of self-identification is both subtle and profound. It reaches beyond the consciousness into the subconscious mind. And it pervades how someone sees both themselves and the world.

To dismiss the self-identification of some people with a politics or political entity as somehow essentially different from the self-identification of some people (perhaps the same people) with a deity, religious ideology, or worldview strikes me as uncomprehending of what self-identification actually is.

The psychological self, for most people, is bound up in self-identification. Awareness, for most people, is entwined with self-identification. The very basis of normal consciousness in the division of the world into subject and object is the key support of self-identification.
 
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