AmbiguousGuy
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OK, then you must consider Nazi culture to be an actual culture.
It would be wrong to make fun of Nazi culture, in your view?
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Is it OK to make fun of religions?
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OK, then you must consider Nazi culture to be an actual culture.
It would be wrong to make fun of Nazi culture, in your view?
Yes, but it is highly arguable that there was a Nazi culture.
I am not convinced that it is. If that is the case, then would the KKK or the WBC be a culture, as well? But I am not closed-minded about the idea that it might be a culture; but I do doubt it, as for now
AmbiguousGuy
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OK, let's call it 'German culture under the Nazi regime.'
Was it OK to make fun of that culture?
(Plus, I disagree that 'culture' and 'ethnic group' are equal terms.)
Well, to anthropologists, culture is any learned behavior passed down from one generation to the next. That is, any behavior that one generation teaches the next generation(s). So, for instance, the older Nazis taught younger Nazis to behave in certain ways when it came to Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, and other groups they regarded as inferior. Just like White Supremacists teach their children to behave in certain ways when it comes to various groups. And that's culture, by definition.
The fact is that they were a political party and later, with the neo-nazies, a kind of political movement, which is the main point. Can a political party be a culture? Are capitalists, liberals, and conservatives a culture? Parents teach their own political party to their children.
A big part of culture is ethnic group, from what I have learned on the subject. I'd have to do some study on it to make a definite statement about that, however.
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outhouse
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
"Nazi" was a contraction of Nationalsozialistische Arbeiter Partei, or "National Socialist Workers Party." It was introduced in 1919 and was one of more than 30 political parties in the German Parliament. In other words, it was a one of several political ideals -- not a culture. The culture would be... German culture, which, from 1919 to the end of Der Zweite Weltkrieg, held political power in Germany. Diss the political machine, not the culture.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
"Making fun" dehumanizes. it serves no productive purpose.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
It doesn't. Again: diss the "ism" not the culture.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
You're forgetting that, once the Nationalsozialistiche Arbeiter Partei was quelled in 1945, Germany quickly disowned uniquely Nazi expressions that had infiltrated the broader culture, to the extent that they even changed the fundamental characteristics of the German language, hoping to make it less susceptible to twisting and political propaganda.
In other words, the political machine died; the culture remains. Same with Russian culture concerning the fall of communism.
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outhouse
Atheistically
Different cultures. edited my original reply.
They are both Caucasians
And are you stating all African black cultures are identical?
Causcasian isn't an ethnicity. It's a somewhat outdated anthropological term for the "white race". Plus, Americans aren't all European-descended.
Nope. You seemed to be saying that black Africans are all the same ethnicity, but with different cultures.
Some people hold beliefs that cause harm to others. Making fun of such believes could indeed serve a productive purpose.
For your point to make any sense, I think you would first need to redefine culture as something quite different from what cultural anthropologists consider it to be, and then you would need to ignore the fact that you have produced no real argument against the idea that the Nazis created a culture, but have only produced something along the lines of a lame assumption that a culture isn't a culture if it can be changed. Honestly, I don't see how you could screw up more, even if you tried.