Is it okay to disagree with your religion?

[hannah969]

I consider myself to be a good Catholic but my church says that sex before marriage is a sin. I have a really hard time keeping my biological urges down and most of the sex that I have would be considered to be extremely sinful in both context and content.

I generally prefer sex to be like that though so I don't understand why god would make me want to do such acts that god considers sinful. Is it kind of like a fractal pattern of confusing godlike understanding? I keep feeling as if I'm reaching these insanely intense sexual peaks which are in tune with how deeply I debase myself. Sometimes I even wonder if god is present through some of the things I do.

I also want to know how I can get into heaven and still maintain the lifestyle that I do. By keeping on going to confessionals?

 

[Nietzsche]

I suggest seeing a psychiatrist, because if you're being honest about your sexual urges it sounds like you might have hypersexuality(formerly known as nymphomania), normally something associated with Bipolar disorder though entirely possible to show up on its own. That's a medical condition, not a personality quirk, as there is a significant difference between "enjoys sex and likes to have it often" and "I cannot stop this and must do it".

 

[LuisDantas]

Keeping in mind that I am not a Catholic or even a theist, I think Nietzsche has given good advice above.

It is IMO ok to disagree with one's religious origin, but not everything is best approached from a religious perspective.

Staying on a strictly doctrinary plane, though, it seems to me that at some point strong and frequent enough disagreements would naturally lead to leaving any given religion.

 

[Katzpur]

I consider myself to be a good Catholic but my church says that sex before marriage is a sin. I have a really hard time keeping my biological urges down and most of the sex that I have would be considered to be extremely sinful in both context and content.

I generally prefer sex to be like that though so I don't understand why god would make me want to do such acts that god considers sinful. Is it kind of like a fractal pattern of confusing godlike understanding? I keep feeling as if I'm reaching these insanely intense sexual peaks which are in tune with how deeply I debase myself. Sometimes I even wonder if god is present through some of the things I do.

I also want to know how I can get into heaven and still maintain the lifestyle that I do. By keeping on going to confessionals?

What does going to confessionals accomplish if you don't change the behavior? Or am I missing something?

 

[hannah969]

I suggest seeing a psychiatrist, because if you're being honest about your sexual urges it sounds like you might have hypersexuality(formerly known as nymphomania), normally something associated with Bipolar disorder though entirely possible to show up on its own. That's a medical condition, not a personality quirk, as there is a significant difference between "enjoys sex and likes to have it often" and "I cannot stop this and must do it".

That's a massive reach. I don't see anything wrong with my behaviour. It harms no one and feels great to me.

 

[hannah969]

What does going to confessionals accomplish if you don't change the behavior? Or am I missing something?

Apparently, God forgives you and it's all good. But I deeply disagree with my faith on the issue of sexuality.

 

[psychoslice]

I think your sexual urges are just normal, you just need to get rid of the guilt, maybe even getting rid of god all together, there's a good chance that there is no such thing as heaven or god, so enjoy your life and have as much sex as you want, its a good sign of heath to do so.

 

[LuisDantas]

Apparently, God forgives you and it's all good. But I deeply disagree with my faith on the issue of sexuality.

Do you personally feel that confession followed by repeating the supposedly sinful behavior is a cycle that can or should go on indefinitely?

Is there any particular reason why you perceive yourself as an adherent of a faith with which you seem to have significant disagreements?

 

[hannah969]

Do you personally feel that confession followed by repeating the supposedly sinful behavior is a cycle that can or should go on indefinitely?

Is there any particular reason why you perceive yourself as an adherent of a faith with which you seem to have significant disagreements?

Probably just because of family, geography, history, etc.

I feel like my behaviour should go on the way it is. It makes more sense than my religion seems to.

 

[hannah969]

I think your sexual urges are just normal, you just need to get rid of the guilt, maybe even getting rid of god all together, there's a good chance that there is no such thing as heaven or god, so enjoy your life and have as much sex as you want, its a good sign of heath to do so.

That makes me think sex is better than religion. So why even have religion at all nowadays. We have laws, etc.

 

[LuisDantas]

Probably just because of family, geography, history, etc.

I feel like my behaviour should go on the way it is. It makes more sense than my religion seems to.

So, don't you feel like deciding that you are not a Catholic after all?

 

[hannah969]

So, don't you feel like deciding that you are not a Catholic after all?

Not necessarily.

 

[Nietzsche]

What does going to confessionals accomplish if you don't change the behavior? Or am I missing something?

I'm not Catholic(shocker, right?) but I think it boils down to "we're gonna sin anyway, and while we try to change, there is very little we are likely to permanently change". I might be wrong, as again, I am clearly not a Catholic, but that's how I've always seen both Confession and Christian notions of repentance in general.

 

[LuisDantas]

Not necessarily.

Assuming that you are not joking outright (and I hope yet doubt that you are) and given the context, that strongly hints that you have a whole lot to consider and learn about commitment, responsibility and choices. The sooner the better.

 

[Riverwolf]

I can't speak for Catholicism, as I'm not Catholic (or Christian, or monotheist of any kind), either.

The path I follow, however, allows for a lot of disagreement. I'm a polytheist, and if you know your classical mythology, you know that the Gods often disagreed to the point of fighting. I don't follow the Olympioi (Greek Pantheon), either, but since there aren't great equivalents in the Northern survivors, the example I often use to describe polytheist ethics is this: if you love sex, that displeases Artemis, but pleases Aphrodite. Everything we do pleases and displeases some God or another, so it depends on whose favor you wish to accumulate, and who you're okay with being in disfavor with. It also helps that we don't really care much about what happens after we die.

I know that's not terribly applicable to Catholicism, but I wanted to demonstrate that disagreeing with your religion really amounts to what your religion is.

 

[The Hammer]

That's a massive reach. I don't see anything wrong with my behaviour. It harms no one and feels great to me.

Not a massive reach at all. Crack open the DSM-V sometime and give it a whirl. You only call things a "stretch" when the hit you too close to home, I am noticing.

 

[jojom]

I suggest seeing a psychiatrist, because if you're being honest about your sexual urges it sounds like you might have hypersexuality(formerly known as nymphomania), normally something associated with Bipolar disorder though entirely possible to show up on its own. That's a medical condition, not a personality quirk, as there is a significant difference between "enjoys sex and likes to have it often" and "I cannot stop this and must do it".

What a load of overblown crap. You read a half-dozen sentences about someone and believe they should see a psychiatrist, and because they're struggling with their biological urges you conclude they might be a nymphomaniac. Of course you're free to dispense your vast medical knowledge as you see fit, but in as much as it's only a superficial one I suggest you take stock of your limitations and temper your advice with a bit of sympathetic perspicacity.


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[The Hammer]

What a load of overblown crap. You read a half-dozen sentences about someone and believe they should see a psychiatrist, and because they're struggling with their biological urges you conclude they might be a nymphomaniac. Of course you're free to dispense your vast medical knowledge as you see fit, but in as much as it's only a superficial one I suggest that you temper your advice with a bit of sympathetic perspicacity.


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Check her other post, it is fairly on mark.

 

[jojom]

Check her other post, it is fairly on mark.

You mean the one where she responded to Nietzsche's post by saying, "That's a massive reach. I don't see anything wrong with my behaviour. It harms no one and feels great to me"?


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[psychoslice]

That makes me think sex is better than religion. So why even have religion at all nowadays. We have laws, etc.

Well many people need it, I once used religion to get me through life, but now I don't need it, I have grown from such childishness, and you can do the same, its all your choice, as it is your choice to be guilty or not.