Is it only Christians who are saved?

[Twilight Hue]

I hope this question does not offend anyone.

Sometimes it seems like a few Christian people think they are the only people who can get saved and enter heaven. But my question then is.

What with the rest of us? Are we doomed to your Christian hell?

No one is, or was in any danger in the first place involving any made up spiritual affliction or condition.

It's just a Christian thingy that is being entertained here and certainly not something anyone needs to be concerned over, unless of course, one actually wants and likes to be concerned over something so ridiculous an idea like sin.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Christians didn't create hell, the last time I checked.

Why insist that Christians be the judge of hearts? Are we God? Are we the Judge of all?

Are you saying there are more than one way to be united in spirit with God's Holy Spirit? Do you trust what was written about what Jesus said? And if not, what do you trust?

PS

Heaven isn't the ultimate destination

Hell isn't in the OT. It is in Zoroastrianism though.

 

[muhammad_isa]

..there is no other way to be saved..

..you make God sound like an unfair racist.
Anybody who says that God won't save anybody except those that believe like they do are misguided. They have no authority to say so.

Anybody who has true "goodness" in their heart, God knows about it. He is the ultimate judge, and nobody else.

However, a person who turns away from God can't be saved, unless they repent.

 

[Kenny]

Hell isn't in the OT. It is in Zoroastrianism though.

Isaiah 66:24; Daniel 12:1-3

But no one has to go there. It was created for Satan and his dominions.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I hope this question does not offend anyone.

Sometimes it seems like a few Christian people think they are the only people who can get saved and enter heaven. But my question then is.

What with the rest of us? Are we doomed to your Christian hell?

The Lord Jesus said:

Jesus said to him, “I am the way and the truth[a] and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." - John 14:6

One must accept the Gospel - that God has come amongst us in the Person of Jesus Christ, revealed the mysteries of the Kingdom of God to us, suffered and died on the cross and rose from the dead 3 days later in triumph over death - and repent of your sins, in order to be saved in traditional Christianity. We believe that Christ is the full revelation of God to humanity, as He is God Almighty in the flesh. So if you reject Jesus, you're rejecting the Father also, as John 8:19 says.

Also, no person is just considered "good" in Christianity. We are all sinners in need of repentance (which is transformation) and mercy (especially when we're old enough to know right from wrong). The point is to pursue holiness and refine yourself.

Does that mean that every non-Christian is going to hell? No. God judges each person individually. Maybe a lot of people were never exposed to the truth, especially in the proper way. Obviously some some can be turned against Christ by being exposed to negative examples of Christianity. There is such a thing as culpability, after all.

Regardless, I'm Catholic and we believe there's a place of purification after death and we can surely pray that all souls will be saved somehow and have that hope. But the normative way to be saved is to accept Christ as Lord and Savior (and God, imo), repent and at least try to live a life in accordance with the teachings handed down for millennia.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The Bible is given for Christians as a guide

Other Scriptures are given for other beliefs

Imposing Bible on others is not okay

She didn't say anything about "imposing the Bible on others". Don't put words in people's mouths.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Hell isn't in the OT. It is in Zoroastrianism though.

Jesus taught about hell as a place of punishment for the wicked, as with the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. He wouldn't have called it "hell,", though, as that's a later term but the concept was the same.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Jesus taught about hell as a place of punishment for the wicked, as with the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. He wouldn't have called it "hell,", though, as that's a later term but the concept was the same.

I know it's in the NT, just not in the OT.

 

[stvdv]

She didn't say anything about "imposing the Bible on others". Don't put words in people's mouths.

I did not say nor imply she said that

I only made claims:
"Imposing your Faith on others is not okay"

 

[F1fan]

No one is, or was in any danger in the first place involving any made up spiritual affliction or condition.

It's just a Christian thingy that is being entertained here and certainly not something anyone needs to be concerned over, unless of course, one actually wants and likes to be concerned over something so ridiculous an idea like sin.

Christianity: Hey, I have a gun to your head.
Unbeliever: There are no bullets in your gun.
Christianity: But I have a gun to your head.

 

[DNB]

I hope this question does not offend anyone.

Sometimes it seems like a few Christian people think they are the only people who can get saved and enter heaven. But my question then is.

What with the rest of us? Are we doomed to your Christian hell?

Yes, all non-Christians will enter eternal perdition on Judgement Day.
This is because the Almighty ordained it so - in other words, Christians are not saved because the bear the appellation of Christian, but because they abide what God has established as the means towards salvation. That is, since Jesus was God's first-born of all creation, and was sent to redeem man from his sins, all those who accept this fact will be absolved on the final day. Meaning, the title or classification did not come first, but obedience to the Sovereign's will - therefore, call them what you like, it's not the name that saves but their wisdom and faith.

So, since salvation is in the hands of God, anyone who acknowledges His supremacy, and therefore His word, will be saved, the others will not. Again, the group or Church did not come first, but God's atonement did - Christian is just a name that refers to those who have submitted to God's will - as the entire world should - and can.

 

[loverofhumanity]

That is not what Bahaollah said. He said a messenger (manifestation of Allah) haws to be accepted without any question, and one who differs, will face the wrath of Allah. Have you started reading Kitab-i-Aqdas?

He also says that God’s Mercy and forgiveness exceeds His justice. So I believe that there’s hope for all of us.

 

[Aupmanyav]

However, a person who turns away from God can't be saved, unless they repent.

I see no difference between God and Sayyid Ali Hosseini Khamenei, Puin, Xi or Kim Jong Un. 'Enjoy till you don't oppose me'.

He also says that God’s Mercy and forgiveness exceeds His justice. So I believe that there’s hope for all of us.

That is for those people who believe in existence of God. Atheists are not asking for mercy or forgiveness.

 

[muhammad_isa]

I see no difference between God and Sayyid Ali Hosseini Khamenei, Puin, Xi or Kim Jong Un. 'Enjoy till you don't oppose me'..

I can assure you that there is a difference..
How can the "created" be equal to the Creator?
If you don't agree with Almighty God's guidance, then that is between you and God.

We are all entitled to our opinions.
..and Almighty God is Wise, the Knower of All.

 

[metis]

I hope this question does not offend anyone.

Sometimes it seems like a few Christian people think they are the only people who can get saved and enter heaven. But my question then is.

What with the rest of us? Are we doomed to your Christian hell?

And when some Christians do that, they are forgetting or ignoring Jesus' words of "judge ye not...".