Is it only the religious?

[Kooky]

Same as when non-religious people think they aren't as "evil" as religious people, they as well are full of it.

Its the person who is evil, regardless.

I don't actually think people are evil in and of themselves; "evil people", in my book, are people who consistently do things that harm others (out of ignorance, malice, or a broken moral compass).

I know this sounds like splitting hairs to a lot of people, but for me this is a rather important moral distinction to make.

 

[We Never Know]

I don't actually think people are evil in and of themselves; "evil people", in my book, are people who consistently do things that harm others (out of ignorance, malice, or a broken moral compass).

I know this sounds like splitting hairs to a lot of people, but for me this is a rather important moral distinction to make.

Yet some people live for it.
Their next burglary, robbery, rape, murder, etc.
Its how they get excitment.

 

[The Hammer]

You are right, when people claim their religion makes them better people, they are largely full of it.

My religion makes me a better person.

 

[We Never Know]

My religion makes me a better person.

Religion is supposedly good for your health according to science...

Science Says: Religion Is Good For Your Health

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No but it is usually a common justification. Which is why it’s most often criticised when it does become a catalyst for the actions you describe. Religion, all religions, posit themselves as bastions of morality. The truth and righteous way of living. That it is too easily used as a tool for abusing others is a major criticism from Atheists. And one that I share despite being (roughly) religious myself. You want to claim the moral high ground? Prepare to be scrutinised more. That’s just how I see it

Yup. And then of course not all religions are created equal in regards of tolerance and treatment towards others. Some of them provide plenty of justification throughout their alleged sacred texts.

 

[Heyo]

I know this sounds like splitting hairs to a lot of people, but for me this is a rather important moral distinction to make.

It is a principle of moral philosophy that only actions have a moral value, not things or people. And pointing out basic principles isn't splitting hairs.

 

[Audie]

Same as when non-religious people think they aren't as "evil" as religious people, they as well are full of it.

Its the person who is evil, regardless.

But are underrepresented in prisons compared to the Christians.

 

[Audie]

Religion is supposedly good for your health according to science...

Science Says: Religion Is Good For Your Health

Wonder what about the religion, which religions,
what other social orgagizations are equivalent

 

[Kooky]

My religion makes me a better person.

And more power to you if it does!

Personally, I've never found that to be the case for me or the people in my vicinity, but that doesn't mean religious beliefs can't have that positive effect on people.

 

[Left Coast]

Is it only the religious that....
-start wars
-look down on others
-bully others
-molest kids
-kill people
-treat others as inferior

Thats some things I see people blaming "religion" for.

Is it true?...I don't think so because people from all walks of life have committed them as well.

Does it seem like people of religion do them more often?..of course its does. In my opinion its because roughly 85% or more of the population identify as being religious.

What is that like 8.5 people out of 10? So yes with so many numbers they will top the list in many things.

My point is it happens with people from every walk of life, whether there are many of them or few of them, it happens. Its a people problem, not a religious problem.

PS... Mods I didn't know if I should put this in religious debates or not being it really isnt about debating religion. Its about human behavior whether they are religious or not

Religion is what we make it. It can either be a tool for harm or help in society.

 

[Valjean]

And more power to you if it does!

Personally, I've never found that to be the case for me or the people in my vicinity, but that doesn't mean religious beliefs can't have that positive effect on people.

I agree, but religious morality seems pretty fragile.
When morality is Divine Command, rather than Consequentialist or principled, a strong, internalized, principled, purposive morality is optional. One can just refer to the rule book, and interpret to taste. Religion can be a crutch.

 

[Kooky]

I agree, but religious morality seems pretty fragile.
When morality is Divine Command, rather than Consequentialist or principled, a strong, internalized, principled, purposive morality is optional. One can just refer to the rule book, and interpret to taste. Religion can be a crutch.

You're giving organized religion a much greater weight in these questions than I. Most religious teachings I'm familiar with are wide open for various interpretations that would otherwise be wildly at odds with one another.

People have used the same sacred texts to justify religious war and persecution of minorities as they have used to justify pacifism and standing up for the rights of others; for example, during the Nazi era, German Christians have saw justification in their faith both to oppose and to support the regime, to expose Jews to authorities or help them hide and flee, to wage a war of annihilation against the world and to preach peace and forgiveness.

Our beliefs, I would argue, do not compel us; rather, they offer possible justifications for what we did, after the fact.

 

[savagewind]

Is it only the religious that....
-start wars
-look down on others
-bully others
-molest kids
-kill people
-treat others as inferior

Thats some things I see people blaming "religion" for.

Is it true?...I don't think so because people from all walks of life have committed them as well.

Does it seem like people of religion do them more often?..of course its does. In my opinion its because roughly 85% or more of the population identify as being religious.

What is that like 8.5 people out of 10? So yes with so many numbers they will top the list in many things.

My point is it happens with people from every walk of life, whether there are many of them or few of them, it happens. Its a people problem, not a religious problem.

PS... Mods I didn't know if I should put this in religious debates or not being it really isnt about debating religion. Its about human behavior whether they are religious or not

Religious and nominal-religious are two very different things.

Anyone can claim affiliation with any religion at any time. That does not make their position real to whatever deity they seem to be calling upon.