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Is it Really Permissable for a Christian to put down others and slander their beliefs?

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
The reason I ask is because I see fundamentalists putting people down, or putting their beliefs down, mocking their teachers/prophets, etc. Is this really Christ-like behaviour? I don't see it as such. I am a Christian btw, just to verify. This question is in the right section :)
 

Thesavorofpan

Is not going to save you.
A christian should never hurt someone's feeling just for the hell of it, but it's is The christian responsibility to defend the one and only true faith. You shouldn't mock, but disprove their teachers/"prophets"
 

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
It is not just fundamentalist who do this. I actually haven't seen a single sect of Christianity who's members will not put down others. It is nearly a universal to a point. Even Jesus attacked other beliefs. So it could very well be a "Christ (if referring to Jesus)" like thing.
 

Peacewise

Active Member
do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

That is the ultimate answer imo. If ya want them to put down your religion then put down theres... or not.
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
The reason I ask is because I see fundamentalists putting people down, or putting their beliefs down, mocking their teachers/prophets, etc. Is this really Christ-like behaviour? I don't see it as such. I am a Christian btw, just to verify. This question is in the right section :)

I wouldn't blanket label, personally. Christian fundamentalists aren't the only people that belittle others for their beliefs.

To answer your question, no, I don't think that putting others down for their beliefs is Christ-like. We're to love our neighbor.
 

S-word

Well-Known Member
It is not i who put others down, It is the truth of Gods word which puts them down, and reveals them as the slanderous deceivers that they are.
 

Renji

Well-Known Member
A Christian should never hurt other people, whether it is physically, mentally or emotionally. For Jesus said, love one another as I have loved you
 

S-word

Well-Known Member
A Christian should never hurt other people, whether it is physically, mentally or emotionally. For Jesus said, love one another as I have loved you

Jesus was a practicing Jew, who called the Jewish authorities of the church of Moses in which he had been educated, Hypocrites, vipers, and sons of satan, and I follow the example of Jesus my chosen high priest and King, who cleared the Temple of his God of all the theiving and dishonest money changers and merchants. With his words and his whip, he hurt those who were defiling the temple of his God, Physically, mentally, and emotionally.
 
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Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
It is not i who put others down, It is the truth of Gods word which puts them down, and reveals them as the slanderous deceivers that they are.

Come on S-word don't try that with me. We both know that's your way of trying to justify something un-Christlike.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
S-word Jesus never treated people other then the Pharisees that way. Know why? Because the Pharisees purposely the manipulated the laws of God to take advantage of people. Jesus showed a good deal of respect toward other Jews, and a few Roman Pagans. He was even respectful toward Pilate. Jesus made clear what his problem with the Jewish authorities was: "You are like a guard dog guarding the stable, you do not permit others to eat, nor do you yourselves eat."
 

S-word

Well-Known Member
Come on S-word don't try that with me. We both know that's your way of trying to justify something un-Christlike.

Speak for yourself you Heritical christian as your title confirms, I know that what I say is true, and I will continue to attack the worthless sheperd that God raised up after he was paid his majesticic wage of thirty peices of silver as commanded.

O! You shepherd of the darkness who claims God sent You out
And even though we know that’s true, that fact I wouldn’t flout
For God commanded Zechariah, “Throw my wages ‘cross the floor,
Those thirty bits of silver, for I’ll guide this flock no more
A worthless shepherd now I’ll raise to guide this stubborn flock
And he will be a useless one, of him I’ll take no stock
For he’ll not feed my little ones, nor search for them that’s lost
But he eats the meat of the fattest sheep. And their hoofs? He tears them off
That worthless shepherd, he is doomed for abandoning my flock
His power, will I destroy by war, his arm will wither dry, then drop
And his right eye will I turn Blind, that’s why he’s never seen
The passage where I speak of him, Zechariah eleven—twelve to seventeen.

Zechariah 13: 7, The Lord Almighty says, “Wake up Sword, and attack the shepherd who works for me! etc.
 
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S-word

Well-Known Member
The 5th century Latin Bible ‘The Vulgate,’ was due mainly to the effort of Jerome who was commissioned to make a revision of the books that had already been translated to Latin by in most cases, persons unknown, and with those books translated by Jerome himself, which revision was completed in 405 A.D. became the official bible of the universal church that had been established by its unorthodox and non-christian champion, ‘King Constantine,’ who had his father Constantius deified and was accorded the same honour himself after his death. It was there, in the Latin Bible the Vulgate, that for the very first time the word “Virgin” was used in reference to the mother of the man Jesus.

In transcribing the Hebrew words of the prophet Isaiah, that an “Almah=unmarried female, would be with child and bear a son,” into Greek, which unlike the Hebrew language, does not have a specific term for ‘virgin,’ the authors of the Septuagint and Matthew were forced to use the Greek word ‘Parthenos,’ which carries a basic meaning of ‘girl,’ and denotes ‘virgin’ only by implication.
‘Parthenos,’ was often used in reference to non-virgins who had never been married. Homer uses it in reference to unmarried girls who were no longer virgins, and Homer was the standard textbook for learning Greek all throughout antiquity, so any writer of Greek, including Matthew, who transcribed Isaiah’s words, (An unmarried woman would be with child etc) while being well aware of this words versatile and indefinite meaning; was in no way implying that Mary was a virgin. For the Hebrew has a specific term for ‘virgin,’ “Bethulah” which word is used in every instance in the Old Testament where a woman who has never had sexual intercourse with a man is referred to, which is obviously not the “Almah,” who is mentioned in Isaiah 7:14.

Young’s Analytical Concordance to the Bible, gives the meaning of the Hebrew word “Almah,” which is used in Isaiah 7: 14; as, (Concealment: Unmarried woman.) when Mary, the obedient handmaid to her indwelling spirit, who had told the angel three months earlier that she was at that time still a virgin, was among the family and friends who went to Jerusalem to rejoice with the pregnant Elizabeth the cousin of Mary who were of the daughters of Levi, where she must have met for the first time and was attracted to the biological father of Jesus, who, in the genealogy of Jesus is recorded to be Joseph, the son of Heli from the tribe of Levi, who is a descendant of Nathan. And the act of obedience from which the child of Gods promise was conceived in the womb of the “Almah,” unmarried woman, was concealed in the shadow beneath the wings of the Lord of spirits.

Luke 3: 23; Jesus the son of Joseph, the son of Heli, the descendant of Nathan the son of Bathsheba and Uriah the Hittite, who became a member of the tribe of Levi by his marriage to Bathsheba the daughter of Ammiel, the son of Obed-Edom, who is a descendant of Moses the Levite through his second wife who was the daughter of Hobab the Kennite, one of the two father-in-laws of Moses, Jethro the priest of Midian being the father of the first wife of Moses.

Isaac is a prototype of Jesus and like Jesus was born of Gods promise according to the workings of the Holy Spirit. Both Isaac and Jesus were the sons of parents who were both sired by the one Father. ‘Terah,’ is the father to both Abraham and Sarah, while ‘Heli,’ is the father of both Joseph and Mary. Both Mary and Sarah were informed by an angel that they would become Pregnant and bear the son of Gods promise. Isaac was offered up as a sacrifice by his physical father, Jesus was offered up by his spiritual father, who chose him from among the Israelites as his chosen heir and successor with these words, "You are my Son, TODAY I have become your Father," and Isaac was offered up on the very spot where Jesus was crucified. The Jesus as taught by the universal church and all her daughter denominations that were spawned by her lying and deceiving spirit (False teachings) is not the Jesus as taught by the apostles, who I follow, and their God who condemns all those who do not obey him, to suffer eternal torment in the fires of hell, is not my God, "Who I Am."
 
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fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
S-word Jesus never treated people other then the Pharisees that way. Know why? Because the Pharisees purposely the manipulated the laws of God to take advantage of people. Jesus showed a good deal of respect toward other Jews, and a few Roman Pagans. He was even respectful toward Pilate. Jesus made clear what his problem with the Jewish authorities was: "You are like a guard dog guarding the stable, you do not permit others to eat, nor do you yourselves eat."
How did the Pharisees, who had relatively no political power, manipulate the laws?

However, Jesus does claim that the Jews are the offspring of Satan, at least if you believe the Gospel of John. Really not something that would have passed very well. Not to mention that he disliked what various Jews were doing in the Temple so much that he went in their and caused a massive scene, disrupting the Passover holiday. Not something that showed Jesus treating people equally.
 

enchanted_one1975

Resident Lycanthrope
There are people in many faiths that take part in the behaviors mentioned in the OP. It may seem to happen more in some faiths, but that may well be because there are more members of those faiths. The thing to do is be better than those that trash others and act as hypocrites. Be better when following your own chosen path and let comments from those who disagree just roll off your shoulder.
 
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Renji

Well-Known Member
Jesus was a practicing Jew, who called the Jewish authorities of the church of Moses in which he had been educated, Hypocrites, vipers, and sons of satan, and I follow the example of Jesus my chosen high priest and King, who cleared the Temple of his God of all the theiving and dishonest money changers and merchants. With his words and his whip, he hurt those who were defiling the temple of his God, Physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Because that is the truth and the truth hurts sometimes. However, that should not be a reason for us Christians to downgrade others because of our beliefs. I never insist my beliefs to other people by downgrading them or whatsoever. I let them choose, whether they will believe me or not. We are given the intellectual capacity to choose what we want to believe.
 
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