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Is it Really Permissable for a Christian to put down others and slander their beliefs?

S-word

Well-Known Member
Because that is the truth and the truth hurts sometimes. However, that should not be a reason for us Christians to downgrade others because of our beliefs. I never insist my beliefs to other people by downgrading them or whatsoever. I let them choose, whether they will believe me or not. We are given the intellectual capacity to choose what we want to believe.

All have been given free will and the right to choose what they want to believe, and we are given the intellectual capacity to determine the truth from the lie. But how many are capable of using their God given intelligence to separate, the disciples of the Anti-Christ, from the disciples of our Lord God and saviour?

When you see ignorant and gullible people being taken advantage of, by those deceptive demonic disciples of the Anti-Christ, who refuse to acknowledge that Jesus came as a Human Being and who set out to deceive the gullible in order to control their minds and their finances and attempt to separate them from the truth that leads to the Glory of God, what do you do? Sit back and watch as the demonic deceivers lead them to the edge of the cliff that drops off into oblivion and say, “Well it’s their own fault, they were given the intellectual capacity to determine the truth from the lie and they chose to believe the lie”?

But if you would try to lead them away from the deceivers, do you prepare yourself for the battle, that you will inevitably be confronted with by those who do not want to lose their financial and power base, or do you turn tail and scamper off like a coward, saying to yourself, “I aint getting involved in their mess, they were given the intellectual capacity to determine the truth from the lie, let em live with the consequences”? As for myself, I choose to do battle with all the liars and deceivers.

quote=Lawrence; Because that is the truth and the truth hurts sometimes.


And what is the truth, I know this for a fact, it is not I who hurt people such as yourself, who are ignorant to the trith in God's word, it is the truth that I reveal to them, which proves to them that they went into battle before arming themselves with the truth of God's word, which shatters them. Tell me son, when and from where, did the family flee into Egypt to escape Herods soldiers who were slaughtering the innocents
 
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Renji

Well-Known Member
All have been given free will and the right to choose what they want to believe, and we are given the intellectual capacity to determine the truth from the lie. But how many are capable of using their God given intelligence to separate, the disciples of the Anti-Christ, from the disciples of our Lord God and saviour?

When you see ignorant and gullible people being taken advantage of, by those deceptive demonic disciples of the Anti-Christ, who refuse to acknowledge that Jesus came as a Human Being and who set out to deceive the gullible in order to control their minds and their finances and attempt to separate them from the truth that leads to the Glory of God, what do you do? Sit back and watch as the demonic deceivers lead them to the edge of the cliff that drops off into oblivion and say, “Well it’s their own fault, they were given the intellectual capacity to determine the truth from the lie and they chose to believe the lie”?

But if you would try to lead them away from the deceivers, do you prepare yourself for the battle, that you will inevitably be confronted with by those who do not want to lose their financial and power base, or do you turn tail and scamper off like a coward, saying to yourself, “I aint getting involved in their mess, they were given the intellectual capacity to determine the truth from the lie, let em live with the consequences”? As for myself, I choose to do battle with all the liars and deceivers.

quote=Lawrence; Because that is the truth and the truth hurts sometimes.


And what is the truth, I know this for a fact, it is not I who hurt people such as yourself, who are ignorant to the trith in God's word, it is the truth that I reveal to them, which proves to them that they went into battle before arming themselves with the truth of God's word, which shatters them. Tell me son, when and from where, did the family flee into Egypt to escape Herods soldiers who were slaughtering the innocents

I do try to answer deceitful things, but I do not downgrade other people. Arguing is different from downgrading them. You attack the fallacies that they are saying however, you do not attack them personally. Of all the religions around the world, it is difficult to determine "which is which", for every religion has its own ups and downs. So therefore, you do not immediately say that "Hey, your religion is false, your doctrines are false, that's why you're going to hell." it is good to observe and then judge whether a particular person is saying a false doctrine. After that, that's the only time that you oppose and say, "Hey, where in the scripture would you find that?" and so on. However, saying things that are against them personally isn't a good thing. For example, if I say that a person is a "black protestant", is that opposing their doctrine or I'm just offending them by saying that? Can I show the other sects the "truth" if I downgrade or discriminate them? In order to identify the truth, we oppose the doctrine but we do not downgrade anyone.
 
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S-word

Well-Known Member
I do try to answer deceitful things, but I do not downgrade other people. Arguing is different from downgrading them. You attack the fallacies that they are saying however, you do not attack them personally. Of all the religions around the world, it is difficult to determine "which is which", for every religion has its own ups and downs. So therefore, you do not immediately say that "Hey, your religion is false, your doctrines are false, that's why you're going to hell." it is good to observe and then judge whether a particular person is saying a false doctrine. After that, that's the only time that you oppose and say, "Hey, where in the scripture would you find that?" and so on. However, saying things that are against them personally isn't a good thing. For example, if I say that a person is a "black protestant", is that opposing their doctrine or I'm just offending them by saying that? Can I show the other sects the "truth" if I downgrade or discriminate them? In order to identify the truth, we oppose the doctrine but we do not downgrade anyone.

When I show in scripture that Jesus was a man born of human parents, and that the mother of Jesus was not married at that time, which is the truth as revealed in scripture, I am accused of defaming their holy and heavenly mother of God. It is the truth as revealed in God's word that hurts them, and I can never stop proclaiming the truth, which I know hurts them.

1st letter of John 4:1-3; “My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the spirit, (My words are spirit) but test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere. This is how you will be able to know if it is Gods spirit/word: anyone who acknowledges that Jesus came as a human being has the spirit who comes from God. But anyone who denies this about Jesus, does not have the spirit from God. The spirit that he has is from the enemy of the anointed one, the Anti-christ etc.”

2nd letter of John verses 7-10; “Many deceivers have gone out all over the world, people who do not acknowledge that Jesus came as a human being. Such a person is a deceiver and an enemy of Christ.” Where do you suppose you would find a teaching that has been spread throughout the entire earth that refuses to acknowledge that Jesus came as a human being?


They cannot say that Jesus was a human being, then say that some supposed virgin (Which is totally unscriptural) was the mother of God. If some immortal God came down and entered the womb of some imaginary virgin, where his Father created a humanlike body for him, that was not of the seed of Adam from who has descended, every human being that has ever walked this earth including the man Jesus, whose physical death, was the ransom blood that is demanded from every person for the sin that they had inherited from Adam. It is for all human beings to die once, then go off into judgement.


It was the son of Man, the fourth dimensional being, whose spirit is currently developing in the sinful body of mankind, which sins are ascribed to He, our Son, who is our Lord and saviour, and who chose the man Jesus as his heir and successor after Jesus had proven himself to be a faithful and obedient servant to the spirit of God's only begotten son, with whose spirit he had been filled as he rose from the baptismal waters. And it was the immortal spiritual body of the Son of Man, who Is God's only begotten Son, which was torn asunder and poured out as fire on the heads of all those who believed his words as spoken through the mouth of his obedient servant Jesus.


Jesus who we once knew as a man, the obedient servant to our Lord God and saviour, who was given divine glory by our saviour, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and who is now incontesably divine. Jesus, who spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by "Who I Am," in whose name he came and in whose name He spoke. Blessed be he who came in the name of the Lord our saviour, who raised Jesus from death as the first fruits harvested from the body of mankind, and the cornerstone to His glorious temple of light in the process of His resurrection, where he will then dwell in this three dimensional world among mankind and visible to mankind.


When I see a spade, I call it a spade, when I see an enemy of the truth who is a disciple of the anti-Christ, I call him for what he is.
 
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Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
You can never show others the light of Christ if you degrade them and disregard their personal beliefs.
 

S-word

Well-Known Member
You can never show others the light of Christ if you degrade them and disregard their personal beliefs.

You seem to think that the Lord is a little ***** cat that walks around on tippy toe, as if walking on broken glass in order not to offend anybody, let me introduce you to the promised Messianic King who comes to save his people.

Zechariah 13: 7, The Lord Almighty says, “Wake up Sword, and attack the shepherd who works for me! Kill him, etc. If the spiritual war of words cannot be won, then will the Lord himself descend and stand on the Mount of Olives and go out and fight for his people as he has fought in times past.

Numbers 24: 17, “A king, like a bright star, will arise in that Nation. Like a comet he will come from Israel. He will strike the leaders of Moab and beat down all the people of Seth. He will conquer his enemies in Edom and make their land his property. While Israel continues victorious. The Nation of Israel will trample them down and wipe out the last survivors.”

It will be on that great day of tribulation, before the thousand year rule of the risen body of Christ, who will take the thrones that have been prepared for them, that the Lord gathers all the nations around Jerusalem, Zechariah 12: 10, and they will look upon me and see the one who they pierced, and they shall mourn for him as one mourns for an only child etc.

Isaiah 63: 1-6, “Who is this coming from the city of Bozrah in Edom? Who is this so splendidly dressed in red, marching along in power and strength?” It is the Lord, powerful to save, coming to announce his victory. “Why is his clothing so red, like that of a man who tramples grapes to make wine?”
The Lord answers, “I have trampled the nations like grapes and no one came to help me. I trampled them in my anger, and their blood has stained all my clothing. I decided that the time to save my people had come; it was time to punish their enemies, I was amazed when I looked and saw that there was no one to help me. But my anger made me strong, and I won the victory myself. In my anger I trampled whole nations and shattered them, I poured out their life’s blood on the earth.”


The Lord will come to fight for his people Israel as he has fought in times past and from within the inner most sanctuary of his tabernacle, which is the body of mankind, (For the kingdom of God is within you) he will fight the enemies of Israel; those Nations who surround Jerusalem in their attempt to drive God's chosen people into the sea. The Lord will throw them into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh cooked to the bone will slide from their bodies while still standing. See Zechariah 14: 12.

Then all those who sing and dance with their eyes and hands raised to the heavens in worship of a god they neither know or understand, can kiss goodbye to their great cathedrals of Marble, stone and crystal, for all the surviving Nations, will send their representatives, who will go up each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to pay tribute to and to worship the Lord as King and woe betide any nation which refuses to do so, See Zechariah 14.


Malachi 3: 1-2; The Lord answers, "I will send my messenger to prepare the way for me. Then the Lord you are looking for will suddenly come to his Temple. The messenger you long to see will come and proclaim my covenant."
But who will be able to endure the day when he comes? Who will be able to survive when he appears?


Don't worry about those people who are offended by having their false beliefs degraded by me; but worry about all those people who call themselves christians, who, in that day will say to the Lord, "Lord, Lord! In your name we spoke God's message, by your name we drove out many demons and performed many miracles!" Then He will say to them, "I never knew you. get away from me, you wicked people!"


Better that those Baal worshipers, who would dare to worship the immortal God before images made to look like mortal man, those so-called christians, be offended and degraded now and come to their senses, than to be degraded and have their false beliefs degraded by the Lord himself.

From the least unto the greatest of they who bear no fruit
The S-word of God has been prepared to cleave them to the roots
As Elijah, who was carried up to stand by Enoch’s side
Stood by the brook at Kishon where the priests of Baal all died.

It was he who gave the order and the waters all turned red
As fifty and eight hundred more false prophets all fell dead
Will you fight the war ‘gainst ignorance, the war that will be won
By those who wield the S-word of God, the sharp two edge-ed tongue.
 
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