Is It Reasonable to Believe Gods Don't Exist?

[Bthoth]

Millions of people believe a God or Gods exist for whatever reason.
Isn't just as reasonable for someone to believe that no Gods exist for whatever personal reasons they happen to have as well?

People say and claim lots of things about God as factual, however they go about justifying to themselves to make that claim.
How is it any different from making the claim that God doesn't exist as a matter of fact?

Joe claims God exists. Charlie claims God doesn't exist. Is there any wrong being done by either?

What is God? Addresses both since there is no clear answer as of yet.

 

[Bthoth]

Believing that no Gods exist is the same as saying that there can be no other species superior to yourself.

For someone to think they belong to the most developed, smartest, most powerful species in the universe seems unreasonable when this is such a vast universe with at least 100 billion galaxies with over 100 billion stars each.

1..... How does a superior species apply as a god?

2... see '1'

 

[Bthoth]

Incalculable?
But, people still feel justified in believing,

That reminds me of the trumpaholics! How can they Love such inconsistencies?

 

[soulsurvivor]

Bold empty claim


How does this not equally apply to ones favoured chosen deity?

It does. If you have a favorite chosen deity, in this vast universe there is probably someone superior to him. If there is no person superior then the deity is the supreme God.

A person who does not believe in God is essentially saying there can be no other species that is superior to himself.

When you acknowledge there can be a species more superior, then you should ask yourself can there be someone superior to that species? Once you go up the ladder, you eventually come to a God.

 

[soulsurvivor]

1..... How does a superior species apply as a god?

2... see '1'

A superior species by itself does not apply as a god. However, when you acknowledge there can be a species more superior, then you should ask yourself can there be someone superior to that species? Once you go up the ladder far enough, you eventually come to a God (not necessarily an almighty one like the Judeo-Christian one, but a God compared to humans). Of course, this would not work if there was only one solar system in the universe.

 

[ppp]

Believing that no Gods exist is the same as saying that there can be no other species superior to yourself.

For someone to think they belong to the most developed, smartest, most powerful species in the universe seems unreasonable when this is such a vast universe with at least 100 billion galaxies with over 100 billion stars each.

Species aren't superior or inferior to one another. That sort of classist and racist thinking has been largely purged from the science of biology and anthropology. Unfortunately, the vestiges of it persist in the general populace. More than the vestiges.

 

[Bthoth]

A superior species by itself does not apply as a god. However, when you acknowledge there can be a species more superior, then you should ask yourself can there be someone superior to that species? Once you go up the ladder far enough, you eventually come to a God (not necessarily an almighty one like the Judeo-Christian one, but a God compared to humans). Of course, this would not work if there was only one solar system in the universe.

That is a moving goal post that every kicker would miss. For example: Judaism evolved to christianity to islam. Same god for all three

 

[soulsurvivor]

Species aren't superior or inferior to one another. That sort of classist and racist thinking has been largely purged from the science of biology and anthropology. Unfortunately, the vestiges of it persist in the general populace. More than the vestiges.

You are saying there is no planet in the Universe where the inhabitants have better brains and better abilities (which we may not even be aware of yet) than humans on Earth? In fact, the humans are not only the dominant, superior species of this planet but they are also the dominant species in the Universe? Very interesting indeed!

 

[soulsurvivor]

Judaism evolved to christianity to islam. Same god for all three

True

 

[ppp]

You are saying there is no planet in the Universe where the inhabitants have better brains and better abilities (which we may not even be aware of yet) than humans on Earth?

Nope.

In fact, the humans are not only the dominant, superior species of this planet but they are also the dominant species in the Universe?

Nope.

Very interesting indeed!

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[soulsurvivor]

Nope

OK

 

[ppp]

That is a moving goal post that every kicker would miss. For example: Judaism evolved to christianity to islam. Same god for all three

They are the same god in the same way that German, French and English are the same language,

 

[ppp]

OK

Indeed. And humans are not the "superior" species on the planet. Arguably, we are not even the dominant species. We certainly are not the most successful.

 

[Bthoth]

They are the same god in the same way that German, French and English are the same language,

Interesting perspective just using the language interpretations. I have learned a divergence with the egyptian-greek to christian christos

 

[soulsurvivor]

Arguably, we are not even the dominant species. We certainly are not the most successful.

OK

 

[soulsurvivor]

I never wrote any of that. In fact, the assumption is on the edge of argumentative. Please be kind (empathetic), as I could be just a babe trying to learn. I am guessing that you coupled your reply to me with 3p.

ps.... conscious life is capable of creation

That was my reply to someone else's post

 

[ppp]

Interesting perspective just using the language interpretations. I have learned a divergence with the egyptian-greek to christian christos

There is certainly some cross cultural influence there. And while there are a lot of writers who take a non-rigorous approach and go Way Too Far with the connection. You might like Pagan and Christian in an Age of Anxiety by Dodds. It old, but its good.

 

[McBell]

It does. If you have a favorite chosen deity, in this vast universe there is probably someone superior to him. If there is no person superior then the deity is the supreme God.

A person who does not believe in God is essentially saying there can be no other species that is superior to himself.

When you acknowledge there can be a species more superior, then you should ask yourself can there be someone superior to that species? Once you go up the ladder, you eventually come to a God.

Why does the ladder stop at a god?

In order to be consistent you have to keep going even past god, right?

 

[soulsurvivor]

Why does the ladder stop at a god?

It does not. Which step is a God is a bit subjective. You could say he would be someone 100000 times more powerful than any human being on Earth or a million times more or whatever you believe is appropriate. I personally think a God would be someone who manages millions of other beings.

In order to be consistent you have to keep going even past god, right?

Absolutely!

Let me be more specific. This whole Judeo-Christian idea of One Supreme God (or is it three) is not correct and never has been. When Jesus talked about the Father, he really meant the God of the Earth (Jesus had never been much outside this planet). The God of the Solar System presides over the Gods of each planet within the solar system and so on. There may or may not be one supreme personal God who presides over the whole Universe.

 

[Heyo]

They are the same god in the same way that German, French and English are the same language,

Or the Catholic, Orthodox or Baptist god are the same.
Or Northern Baptist, Southern Baptist or NIFB god are the same.
Or ... you get the gist?