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Is It Wrong Not Tell People You're Sent From Heaven?

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Matthew 24:44 Therefore also be ready, for in an hour that you don’t expect, the Son of Man will come.

Revelation 16:15 “Behold, I come like a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his clothes, so that he doesn’t walk naked, and they see his shame.”

Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If therefore you won’t watch, I will come as a thief, and you won’t know what hour I will come upon you.

That would be a mad thing to do; talking about someone who has always believed it since birth, with numerous details of spiritual understanding....a psychiatrist couldn't even comprehend that existing at that age. ;)
Those scriptures you use to prove Jesus comes to The World can mean he comes to each person as Revelation 3:20 is saying. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

Also, why not tell us how he can be missing and with us at the same time? Matthew 28:20
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The poor lost sheep will lose his hope and then Jesus comes to pick him up at a time he was not expecting. Matthew 18:12-13

Or do you think the lost sheep expect to be found? If so, they are not really lost. Are they?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have heard from a little bird (not really an Earth bird) that one reason People trust that Jesus will become obviously present to the world is that they then will have PROOF. People like me and I do not need for anyone to see proof. It is called faith.....


......and I suppose it is called bad English too.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Also, everytime I get to know that there are people who believe Jesus will be made manifest to everyone, I think, do those people not know about Magic?
 

Rajina

Member
Within the fulfillment of prophecy, someone is sent before the Tribulation....

Revelation and the Gospels, says the son of man comes secretly before the day....

So since the son of man could clearly warn people the day is impending, is it wrong of him to come secretly?

Do you think if the son of man was revealed, anyone would pay attention, if the whole world has already been deceived?

Who would you try with, not all Muslims read the Bible, not all Christians read the Tanakh, and not all Jews read the Gospels???

If everything that could be said on salvation, was already stated, and those who follow it are already selected, would you tell all the rest, they've not got long to change?

Is it wrong of the son of man to come along, and simply say 'I told you so'?

If someone could prove they were sent to fulfill Messianic prophecy, would you follow them or think they're the anti-Christ, especially if they teach different to your current logic?

What things would you need to believe someone was sent?

Plus any other good questions on this topic......? :innocent:
According to hadees, when he returns back he would kill the Antichrist and end the deception. And as per hadees, he is the only human being capable of doing that. Isn't that enough to recognize him.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Is he inviting us to a wedding feast
The wedding guests are inspected to see their wedding garments, many are unworthy to stay as they're not dressed accordingly. ;)
is he intending to rip us off?
Testing secretly like a thief, yet not to take, just to question unobserved.
Also, why not tell us how he can be missing and with us at the same time?
Because Jewish Reincarnation (Gilgul), says that the prophets help in the progression of the Messianic age. :innocent:
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
Within the fulfillment of prophecy ...
The Buddhist cosmological model provides for various layers of heavens, each populated with various beings possessing progressively longer lifespans and power. A powerful, malevolent being can thus easily pose as "God Almighty", and could easily "fulfill" various "prophecies" it makes in our world due to the comparatively immense powers and lifespan it possesses.

In fact - to me - a "prophetic" deity is intrinsic evidence that such a deity is malevolent. Manipulation of others to do its will is malevolent, especially if it comes with threats for disobedience.
 

The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
Within the fulfillment of prophecy, someone is sent before the Tribulation....

Revelation and the Gospels, says the son of man comes secretly before the day....

So since the son of man could clearly warn people the day is impending, is it wrong of him to come secretly?

Do you think if the son of man was revealed, anyone would pay attention, if the whole world has already been deceived?

Who would you try with, not all Muslims read the Bible, not all Christians read the Tanakh, and not all Jews read the Gospels???

If everything that could be said on salvation, was already stated, and those who follow it are already selected, would you tell all the rest, they've not got long to change?

Is it wrong of the son of man to come along, and simply say 'I told you so'?

If someone could prove they were sent to fulfill Messianic prophecy, would you follow them or think they're the anti-Christ, especially if they teach different to your current logic?

What things would you need to believe someone was sent?

Plus any other good questions on this topic......? :innocent:

Come on (son of) man! Reveal thyself!
 

ukok102nak

Active Member
~;> there are a secrets that were pass down
unto each in every culture of people on this planet
for every generation since in the beginning
of creation of human being
thats why
some people also learned to believed
from the things that are really unexpected
After they had heard the king, they started out. The star they had seen rising led them until it stopped over the place where the child was.
They were overwhelmed with joy to see the star.

how those people managed to knew that
the star they had seen rising
led them until it stopped over the place
where the child was


as they say
but one thing is for sure
in order to learn that secret someone must atleast learned to ask some question first
such as
how did the humanity learned that
they will exist in this reality

or
for how long the human species shall remain
in this plane of existence without losing their salvation
if we may say so


:ty:




godbless
unto all always
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
According to hadees, when he returns back he would kill the Antichrist and end the deception. And as per hadees, he is the only human being capable of doing that. Isn't that enough to recognize him.

The proof is in the pudding.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Within the fulfillment of prophecy, someone is sent before the Tribulation....

Revelation and the Gospels, says the son of man comes secretly before the day....

So since the son of man could clearly warn people the day is impending, is it wrong of him to come secretly?

Do you think if the son of man was revealed, anyone would pay attention, if the whole world has already been deceived?

Who would you try with, not all Muslims read the Bible, not all Christians read the Tanakh, and not all Jews read the Gospels???

If everything that could be said on salvation, was already stated, and those who follow it are already selected, would you tell all the rest, they've not got long to change?

Is it wrong of the son of man to come along, and simply say 'I told you so'?

If someone could prove they were sent to fulfill Messianic prophecy, would you follow them or think they're the anti-Christ, especially if they teach different to your current logic?

What things would you need to believe someone was sent?

Plus any other good questions on this topic......? :innocent:

I believe people have all the information they need.

I believe the idea is to bail out believers inside Israel before the devastations of Armageddon. The rest of the world can wait until just before the end of the world.
 
Within the fulfillment of prophecy, someone is sent before the Tribulation....

Revelation and the Gospels, says the son of man comes secretly before the day....

So since the son of man could clearly warn people the day is impending, is it wrong of him to come secretly?

Do you think if the son of man was revealed, anyone would pay attention, if the whole world has already been deceived?

Who would you try with, not all Muslims read the Bible, not all Christians read the Tanakh, and not all Jews read the Gospels???

If everything that could be said on salvation, was already stated, and those who follow it are already selected, would you tell all the rest, they've not got long to change?

Is it wrong of the son of man to come along, and simply say 'I told you so'?

If someone could prove they were sent to fulfill Messianic prophecy, would you follow them or think they're the anti-Christ, especially if they teach different to your current logic?

What things would you need to believe someone was sent?

Plus any other good questions on this topic......? :innocent:
It would be wrong for them not to tell...a team of trained psychiatric professionals.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I need to some sort of validation that any of the previous hocus pocus or mumbo jumbo surrounding these supposed events warranted any merit whatsoever. To this day, there's been none.

I believe you won't have to worry because he isn't coming for you. All you will get is the general call from the archangel that everyone else gets.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Diffcult to say, since I would have probably changed my sit on the bus after the first mention of Messianic stuff.

Ciao

- viole
"what if God is one of us, just a stranger on the bus" I sat next to a cult member on a bus once and had an interesting debate with him. He was toking up in the bathroom and was so disoriented he almost got on the wrong bus when he reached the transfer stop but I steered him onto the right one.
 
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