Is Jesus Christ a God or Do You Beleive in Jesus the Human ?

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't believe in either one. I'm not even sure he existed.

 

[Deidre]

According to the story in the NT, Jesus didn't want to be treated as a god. At least that is how the story reads to me.

 

[Politesse]

humans must obey the Law, they don't make the Law.

So the Law is for humans?

 

[syo]

So the Law is for humans?

the Law must be followed accordingly by everything God has created.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

I don't believe He's "a" God. I believe he's one of the three persons of God. He's part of God, if you will. He's the part of God that came down to Earth and took human form, after which He ascended back to Paradise to continue being a part of God.

 

[Politesse]

the Law must be followed accordingly by everything God has created.

So the Law is for creations of God?

 

[syo]

So the Law is for creations of God?

yes.

 

[Ingledsva]

Jesus is God. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." mere humans don't fulfill the Law.

He was claiming to be the awaited Jewish Messiah, - whom was a HUMAN from the line of David. Not a God.

SO - obviously a human could fulfill the Jewish Prophets.

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[Politesse]

yes.

Then it seems to me that only the creations of God can fulfill the purpose of the law of God, which was ordained for their benefit.

 

[syo]

Then it seems to me that only the creations of God can fulfill the purpose of the law

Jesus perfected it, he didn't just obey it.

 

[syo]

whom was a HUMAN from the line of David. Not a God*

he is not a mere human,he must have a connection with God.

 

[Politesse]

Jesus perfected it, he didn't just obey it.

Explain.

 

[syo]

Explain.

Jesus perfected the Law. he said later on "You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

he took the commandments and perfected them.

 

[metis]

Since the Torah says that the Law is from God, how could anyone have "perfected" them? Did God goof?

 

[syo]

Since the Torah says that the Law is from God, how could anyone have "perfected" them? Did God goof?

that's a good question. a law from god is already perfect. the orthodox christians believe that Jesus took a perfect law and combined it with the message of Love.

 

[syo]

Jesus spread the message of Love. love thy neighbour etc.

 

[metis]

that's a good question. a law from god is already perfect. the orthodox christians believe that Jesus took a perfect law and combined it with the message of Love.

The message of "LOVE" is implicit in the Law itself since it teaches compassion and justice for all.

 

[metis]

Jesus spread the message of Love. love thy neighbor etc.

And I'm glad he did, which is why I feel quite comfortable being in my wife's church.

 

[Ingledsva]

he is not a mere human,he must have a connection with God.

Which does NOT mean he has to be superhuman, or a God/part of a trinity, etc.

Tanakh does NOT say their Messiah will be a deity. He is from the line of David, - which I might add, - Jesus apparently is not.



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[Politesse]

that's a good question. a law from god is already perfect. the orthodox christians believe that Jesus took a perfect law and combined it with the message of Love.

So you believe that a law without love can be perfect?