Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe Jesus is not a god; He is God.
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Is Jesus Christ the True God?
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I believe Jesus is not a god; He is God.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe it does not but it shows who is in error and who is not.
muhammad_isa
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A simple statement..
..so why did Jesus say...
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father
Matthew 24:36
Why did Jesus "pretend" that he wasn't God, and not omniscient?
Wildswanderer
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I said nothing about Romans.
This is basic theology 101. Jesus is God incarnate. You can't be a Catholic and deny basic Christian teachings that have been the standard from the beginning.
muhammad_isa
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..so why did Jesus say...
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father
Matthew 24:36
Why did Jesus "pretend" that he wasn't God, and not omniscient?
ElishaElijah
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Oh man I thought you were saying you were a Christian all this time, must’ve had you mixed up with someone else.
paarsurrey
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A very good point indeed.
Regards
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
He didn't pretend not to be God. Does God have to know everything or is that man's invention? Where is it said in scripture that God can't decide what to know?
ElishaElijah
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He didn’t pretend anything, He emptied Himself and gave His life so we could have Eternal Life. He became poor so we could be rich, people miss that.
“Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
Philippians 2:5-11 NKJV
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Yes .. God is Omniscient.
The usual Christian explanation is that God "emptied Himself" to become a man .. hmmm.
..so "fully God" and "fully man" .. in substance .. but not mind it would seem.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
We agree with each other, in as much as Jesus is no ordinary man, and deserves the highest respect.
..but claiming that the Son is equal to the Father, is much like saying that an apple is equal to an orange.
18 Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.
- Mark 10 -
ElishaElijah
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Is Jesus good? Yes or No
101G
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GINOLJC,
I have a question to you. "is your using of the terms Father & Son. is it in a biological sense, or Spiritual sense .... which one?
and the Last part of your post, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone".
question, did the Lord Jesus say he was NOT GOOD?
remember he asked "WHY" and I ask WHY call him Good?
101G.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Then who was Jesus talking to when on the cross when he said: "Forgive them for they know not what they do"?
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
So? Still God.Yes .. God is Omniscient.
The usual Christian explanation is that God "emptied Himself" to become a man .. hmmm.
..so "fully God" and "fully man" .. in substance .. but not mind it would seem.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
The godhead is three in one and they are in communication with each other.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I gave the "basic teaching" with Catholics if you actually spent time studying what the Council at Nicaea did and how the concept of "essence" was and is used. After all, how can God be sacrificed to God? Who was Jesus talking to when on the cross and saying "Forgive them....". Why didn't Jesus know when the end of times would be and said only the Father knows? If Jesus and God are 100% identical, then this makes not one iota of sense. If they are not identical, then they cannot be precisely the same. Capice?
The Christian scriptures were translated in Koine Greek, and what they did was to use approaches that reflected this. They would well know what "essence" is about, where it was derived from, and they used it. This is not speculation, as records of the Council's meetings were written and passed on. My favorite source that includes this in quite a bit of detail is Hitchcock's "History of the Catholic Church".
It's so telling that you are so willing to judge others and stating who are the supposed true Christians.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
"Judge ye not, ...". -- Jesus
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
So, if I say "I am three in one and I communicate with each other", whaddya think?
Maybe study instead of just spouting off. Until you do, I've got better things to do.