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Is Jesus Christ true man AND true God?

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
I have not found the word "Ama" in the entire Holy Bible, that is why I doubted Him as the Holy Spirit for eleven years from 1983 to 1994. He hinted though that He is Jesus Christ, like "when I was crucified", "My mother Mary", "My disciples Peter, Matthew", and others. The story about Jesus is in the New Testament. I also noticed that His prophecies were coming true. In spite of these, I remained doubtful because what is at stake was my very own soul which I believe will live forever either in Heaven or in Hell. Then in 1994, I made an aboutface. You may read my aboutface in http://aristean.org/wp113.htm .

I don't buy it.
 

bnabernard

Member
Yes, spirits are a wierd consideration, there you have Noah at the head of his family eight in total, saved from the deluge that was sent to destroy evil mankind. The he ad his family are standing in the aftermath surrounded by spirits?
Well lets face it there were at least a couple of thousand as we see appeared to inhabit one man at one stage, cast into pigs (swine) who jumped off a cliff.
I'm sure they learnt how to be a bit less obvious in their dealings in the future.
 

bnabernard

Member
The scriptures of the new testament relate to scripture in corinthians 2, I think around about eleven two, however in the warning to avoid false spirits the admonishment comes from a guy called Saul who changed his name to Paul following a visitation from 'a spirit'.
This was not one of those privately and personaly selected by the Son of God known as Jesus in the christian tradition but seemingly some disciple drawn from the ranks of those who opposed the spreading of the word related to Jesus.

Now the thread as to whether Jesus was actually God or not could perhaps help to assess the spirit with which you have contact.
Does the spirit uphold and confirm the law of God.

Adam himself broke the law and if we regard the law as God and the law God as being his word then we see that Adam turned his back on God and the law when he thought to test the law at the advice of his wife who herself had been decieved.
On that day he died. some become confused because they see that Adam continued in life, however when we realise that he was no longer the man he was, then we can understand his death, he was as it were born again a new person cut off from his former life and nolonger able to live as he formerly did, Adam of Eden was dead.

What was the gripe Jesus had with the religious leaders of the day. They had misrepresented the law and used the law as a self serving tool and his admonishment was that the religious leaders should return to teaching the law as God the law giver intended.
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
Be careful, man. You are treading dangerous water talking to spirits who may not be who you think they are. Even Satan presents himself as an angel of light.

Thank you, Reggie, for cautioning me about spirits. 1 John 4:1 states: "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God". We (plural) talk to a spirit. We cannot see Him or touch Him but can hear Him. To most, if not all, of His listeners, He is Jesus Christ. I have told you that for eleven years (1983-1994), I doubted that He is Jesus. And then, I doubted Him again in 1999 when I checked His revelations that Jesus was born on 05-23 and died on 08-17. By 2006, after extensive studies, I have proved that He is correct in His revelations. I do not doubt anymore.

Even the well-known British psychic, John Edwards, is not able to talk to the spirits of persons who have passed over. John Edwards acts as a channeller only.
 

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
Thank you, Reggie, for cautioning me about spirits. 1 John 4:1 states: "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God". We (plural) talk to a spirit. We cannot see Him or touch Him but can hear Him. To most, if not all, of His listeners, He is Jesus Christ. I have told you that for eleven years (1983-1994), I doubted that He is Jesus. And then, I doubted Him again in 1999 when I checked His revelations that Jesus was born on 05-23 and died on 08-17. By 2006, after extensive studies, I have proved that He is correct in His revelations. I do not doubt anymore.

Even the well-known British psychic, John Edwards, is not able to talk to the spirits of persons who have passed over. John Edwards acts as a channeller only.

What does this spirit say to you? And you are welcome.
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
What does this spirit say to you? And you are welcome.

There are many things that He said to us (plural). They are in the Filipino language. If you understand Filipino, I can tell you where they are found. But if you don't, with your translator, you will get an idea of what is being talked about.

We are now in the last days. And anytime, we may be harvested. He said that we have to change a new leaf in life ("magbagong-buhay") and change our wrong ideas about God ("magbagong-akala"). Religion is not a guarantee of one being saved. We have to recognize Jesus Christ as true man AND true God. To be saved, one has to believe in the true God AND work.
 

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
There are many things that He said to us (plural). They are in the Filipino language. If you understand Filipino, I can tell you where they are found. But if you don't, with your translator, you will get an idea of what is being talked about.

We are now in the last days. And anytime, we may be harvested. He said that we have to change a new leaf in life ("magbagong-buhay") and change our wrong ideas about God ("magbagong-akala"). Religion is not a guarantee of one being saved. We have to recognize Jesus Christ as true man AND true God. To be saved, one has to believe in the true God AND work.

Does he say anything that contradicts NT scripture?
 

bnabernard

Member
peacecrusader
It is not without reason that a man can say 'be born again' this happens to many people who pass through life experiences, they change, the person they were no longer exists's, an illness, a change in expectations, they happen all the time as we pass through life, just as our body changes and is renewed so are our outlooks,
To have direction to choose to alter and 'change' from an unseen source that pretty much meets expectations would one presumes be good, however on the basis that even the devil presents himself as an angel of light and is refered to as the master of deceptiion we find ourselves with somewhat of a quandry, damned if you do and damned if you don't depending on the peers involved and the greater outcome.
Credentials can easily be produced and used by anything/one wanting to gain trust, the snowball effect the ensues, take the christian religion as a whole and the leadership of Saul/Paul in the new testament.

Which language walked away from Babel with the tongue that would represent God, it's clear that communication would be a sticking point and that is clear as you frequently refer to Filipino understandings and names
So are you working on Hebrew understanding as seen by others or Hebrew understandings according to the Hebrew.
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
Does he say anything that contradicts NT scripture?

I know there are Old Testament that are made clear in the New Testament; such as Sabbath. The spirit of Ama said that Sabbath is Sunday or the seventh day in the life of a person, Three days and three nights. This is in Matthew 12:40 and I found it to be correct in my checking His revelation that Jesus died on 08-17 using the Holy Bible, King James Version which He recommends that we read because if it "nearer the truth" (than other versions).
 
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peacecrusader888

Active Member
peacecrusader
It is not without reason that a man can say 'be born again' this happens to many people who pass through life experiences, they change, the person they were no longer exists's, an illness, a change in expectations, they happen all the time as we pass through life, just as our body changes and is renewed so are our outlooks,
To have direction to choose to alter and 'change' from an unseen source that pretty much meets expectations would one presumes be good, however on the basis that even the devil presents himself as an angel of light and is refered to as the master of deceptiion we find ourselves with somewhat of a quandry, damned if you do and damned if you don't depending on the peers involved and the greater outcome.
Credentials can easily be produced and used by anything/one wanting to gain trust, the snowball effect the ensues, take the christian religion as a whole and the leadership of Saul/Paul in the new testament.

Which language walked away from Babel with the tongue that would represent God, it's clear that communication would be a sticking point and that is clear as you frequently refer to Filipino understandings and names
So are you working on Hebrew understanding as seen by others or Hebrew understandings according to the Hebrew.

@bnabernard
Since I started to know the spirit of Ama in 1983, I had not changed you claim to have happened to me, like "pass through life experiences". Actually, it has been consistent. Ama said that there is reincarnation ("salit-salin"). I believe Him as I found evidences on the Internet.
 

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
I know there are Old Testament that are made clear in the New Testament; such as Sabbath. The spirit of Ama said that Sabbath is Sunday or the seventh day in the life of a person, Three days and three nights. This is in Matthew 12:40 and I found it to be correct in my checking His revelation that Jesus died on 08-17 using the Holy Bible, King James Version which He recommends that we read because if it "nearer the truth" (than other versions).

Actually, that is incorrect. The Sabbath is still Saturday, it hasn't changed. We worship on Sunday because that's the day Jesus rose from the dead. There is no scripture in the NT that mentions a change in the Sabbath day of the week from Sat. to Sun. Ama is wrong about that.

So if I'm understanding you correctly Ama is wrong. The Holy Spirit is never wrong.
 

bnabernard

Member
Hem, yer, perhaps Jesus got the bug and became a sun worshiper :shrug:

However, Holy spirit never being wrong, then the establishment of Israel (son/s of God) slight error?
Or was there a pre-purpose to have Israel scattered throughout the nations, no sword but the name of God.
 

peacecrusader888

Active Member
Actually, that is incorrect. The Sabbath is still Saturday, it hasn't changed. We worship on Sunday because that's the day Jesus rose from the dead. There is no scripture in the NT that mentions a change in the Sabbath day of the week from Sat. to Sun. Ama is wrong about that.

So if I'm understanding you correctly Ama is wrong. The Holy Spirit is never wrong.

The following say that Jesus was not crucified on the eve of the regular weekly Saturday Sabbath of the Jews:
1. Matthew 12:40
2. Mark 16:1
3. John 20:1, 19

Jesus rose from the dead on Monday, not Sunday. Even when Jesus was alive, He taught His disciples that their Sabbath was Sunday.
 

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
The following say that Jesus was not crucified on the eve of the regular weekly Saturday Sabbath of the Jews:
1. Matthew 12:40
2. Mark 16:1
3. John 20:1, 19

Jesus rose from the dead on Monday, not Sunday. Even when Jesus was alive, He taught His disciples that their Sabbath was Sunday.

Wrong. He was crucified on Friday and rose on Sunday. This is common knowledge.
 

bnabernard

Member
In my experience there has been many a debate over the crucitixion of Jesus regarding the days, mostly involving the sabbath arrangements and the abilities of the people involved being able to carry out the things they are supposed to have done.
I will, if I have the time try to locate the arguments.

It is however rather a turn around for God to start altering His appointed Sabbath to suit the the sun god
But then perhaps He was anxious to be disbelieved on account of being cheesed of with his chosen people?
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
  • In the book of Hebrews the writer speaks of the Old Testament prophets speaking with the spirit of Christ.... sounds divine
  • Corinthians says the rock that followed them in the wilderness (which was God) was Christ... sounds divine especially since in context it is God who was on trial with God struck seen as the rock

but

  • Jesus was born of Mary... sounds like man
  • Jesus grew in wisdom, knowledge and favor with God and man sounds man
  • Jesus died died
  • He rose and ate a fish for breakfast ....
so

both

-in John 2 he was human enough to die and divine enough to raise himself
'tear down this temple and in 3 days I will raise it'
 
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