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Is Jesus the Son of God...or is HE God.

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
The High Priest rushes into the Aztec Emperor.

"Sire, Sire, We have had to cancel the march of the Virgins!"

The emperor looked down his nose and said, "Why are we suffering this disaster?"

The priest cast his eyes down on the floor fearing to displease the emperor, "One is sick Sire, the other refuses to march alone."

Regards,
Scott
 

Francine

Well-Known Member
So be a Christian who doesn't believe in the Trinity. That seems simple enough to me, and it worked for Christians for 325 years.

I can post something from 151 AD that teaches the Trinity.

"We will prove that we worship him reasonably; for we have learned that he is the Son of the true God himself, that he holds a second place, and the Spirit of prophecy a third. For this they accuse us of madness, saying that we attribute to a crucified man a place second to the unchangeable and eternal God, the Creator of all things; but they are ignorant of the mystery which lies therein" (Justin Martyr, First Apology 13:5–6).
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
I can post something from 151 AD that teaches the Trinity.

"We will prove that we worship him reasonably; for we have learned that he is the Son of the true God himself, that he holds a second place, and the Spirit of prophecy a third. For this they accuse us of madness, saying that we attribute to a crucified man a place second to the unchangeable and eternal God, the Creator of all things; but they are ignorant of the mystery which lies therein" (Justin Martyr, First Apology 13:5–6).
To me, that doesn't teach the Trinity at all. To begin with, this is clearly subordinationist theology, which was never taught after the council at Nicea. The Athanasian Creed, for example, stresses the co-equality of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, but Justin Martyr clearly describes the Son as holding a second place and the Holy Ghost as holding a third place. The Son, a crucified man, holds a postion secondary to His Father, the eternal God.
 
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