sandandfoam
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Have a nice day my rational friend. I am won over by your mastery of logical argument.
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Is Love Anything More than an Oxytocin Addiction?
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Have a nice day my rational friend. I am won over by your mastery of logical argument.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Nighty-night - sweet dreams.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Love is an illusion, a vagary of perception, like all other emotions.
Is that what you're driving at, OP?
That's the most nihilistic thing I've ever heard.
Is that what you're driving at, OP?
That's the most nihilistic thing I've ever heard.
linwood
Well-Known Member
Nope, you still don`t get it.
Oxytocin is a chemical manufactured by your brain.
When enough of this chemical interacts in a particular way with other chemicals/transmitters in your brain you feel the emotion we know as "love".
It is for all intents and purposes a drug and a high.
That`s what this thread is about.
Love is a physical tangible evidenced phenomenon.
Nothing more.
DarkSun
:eltiT
Is there any emotion that isn't biological?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Politesse
Amor Vincit Omnia
You know, I'm not sure I would call love an emotion in the first place. Rather, love defines a social/cultural relationship. There are definitely emotions associated with love, but they completely run the gamut from happiness to grief to anger to sadness... Are you going to tell me that a grieving widow, a quarreling sibling, and a lovestruck teenager are experiencing the same emotion, with the same cause of oxytocin addiction? And that this addiction is so prevalent and common that society has organized itself around the relationships the addiction creates?
linwood
Well-Known Member
Like what?
You mean they don`t use sentences that contain actual objectively evidenced facts about the correlation between human emotions and neurochemical reactions?
I thought it was human beings who actually made these amazing discoveries.
You should read about some of them.
linwood
Well-Known Member
This is very simplistic but check it out.
Are you going to tell me that a...
grieving widow,....(withdrawal, just had the source of her oxytocin cut off.)
a quarreling sibling, ..(I myself have never witnessed juvenile love between siblings, no addiction
and a lovestruck teenager ....(oxytocin overdose, the cause of the chemical is close and frequent.)
...are experiencing the same emotion, with the same cause of oxytocin addiction?
Pretty much yeah.
All different kinds of chemical reactions cause all different kinds of attitudes.
Pot makes me mellow, it makes my wife paranoid.
Pretty much..yeah.
Disclaimer:
I`m not entirely serious with this reply.
Are you going to tell me that a...
grieving widow,....(withdrawal, just had the source of her oxytocin cut off.)
a quarreling sibling, ..(I myself have never witnessed juvenile love between siblings, no addiction
and a lovestruck teenager ....(oxytocin overdose, the cause of the chemical is close and frequent.)
...are experiencing the same emotion, with the same cause of oxytocin addiction?
Pretty much yeah.
All different kinds of chemical reactions cause all different kinds of attitudes.
Pot makes me mellow, it makes my wife paranoid.
Pretty much..yeah.
Disclaimer:
I`m not entirely serious with this reply.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
"Only a human would create something as insipid as love."
--Smith
The Matrix: Revolutions
He's right.
--Smith
The Matrix: Revolutions
He's right.
Herr Heinrich
Student of Mythology
Well that is what my PhD holding Psychology teacher says. I have never done it but I take her word on it too.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Good post. I alluded to this also in an earlier post when I was discussing the husband who visits his wife (who has Alzheimer's) every day and feeds her lunch as she rocks back and forth and doesn't even recognize him. What's feeding his addiction? How is he getting his oxytocin fix from that selfless visit?
Sure, love can feel great. But that's only one aspect of love, and in long term relationships there can be long periods of time when things don't feel so great - and yet love often endures, sometimes with little hope of warm fuzzies in the foreseeable future.
DarkSun
:eltiT
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blackout
Violet.
Memories, thoughts, smells of a person can also release oxytocin.
(I know this simply from the experience of being alive)
If the spouse visiting his alzheimer's wife is still connecting with her
inside his own Self, he will be flooded with "love chemicals".
If he is there simply out of duty,
and the daily visits pain him and drain him of his energy and happiness,
he should consider spending more time with others
who DO make him happy, and release "happy" healing chemicals
within him.
I personally would WANT my Loved one
to find love in another
if I could no longer fill that role.
If it were something I could be aware of,
it would make ME happy.
(ie. flood me with "feel good" chemicals)
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
I disagree.
Love is a social construct which does not exist in every culture.
Love happens between people and not inside them. It is a discourse.
Love is not one of the so-called basic emotions and no one has succesfully located emotions inside the person.
Doesn't mean that love is not real.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Now that we've both slept might you answer my question - Why would an 'objective' thinker not be skeptical about 'love'?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Smith also said that the purpose of life is to end. Correct, but only from a machine's point of view. His understanding of humanity is one-dimensional.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Whose interests would be served by conceiving of love in his way?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Those who hate life, hate humanity, and are in love with hating.
linwood
Well-Known Member
Please name a culture where love is non-existent.
I`ve never heard of such a place.
No actually if you`ve ever felt love you`d know it most definitely is a feeling and it does happen inside you.This is why it brings pleasure and pain.
You`d also know it`s not limited to people.
A person can love animals plants and "things" as much or more than they love people.
You been told numerous times that it has been identified and located.
What makes you continue to say such a thing?
Oxytocin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia