Tornado does not have an inbuilt natural selection mechanism determining what it leaves behind. A more apt comparison would have been the partially predictable formation of complex ice crystals in winter.
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Is Mankind A Fluke?
- Thread starter Salty Booger
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Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
How often do ice crystals evolve into scientists and engineers?
That's the idiom.
You have a species of critter, whose members are similar but not identical. Let us, for the sake of example, say the climate becomes drier. Then the dearth of water may affect some of our critters worse than others. The worse will have more deaths, fewer survivors, so their genes will be less represented in the ensuing generations. The better will have fewer deaths and more survivors, so their genes will be better represented in the ensuing generations.
See? Natural selection ─ those fitter for their circumstances are better at passing on their genes than the others are. The circumstances are the determining factor ─ no intelligent designer pixies need apply.
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
LOL... I like that.
Have we been able to produce life in a beaker yet? I mean, without cheating the process?
Nope, not yet.LOL... I like that.
Have we been able to create new species of animals by magic yet? Any progress reported from the "creation science" folks?
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
Nobody on this team are trying to whip up additional critters, or none that don't come naturally. Yours is a theory that has yet to be proven, but I'm not saying you are wrong. It would be a miracle nonetheless.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Such poor questions. If we did creationists would only try to claim that proves an intelligence is needed.LOL... I like that.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Ooh, why didn't you tell us that you are scientifically illiterate?Nobody on this team are trying to whip up additional critters, or none that don't come naturally. Yours is a theory that has yet to be proven, but I'm not saying you are wrong. It would be a miracle nonetheless.
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
It's a dark secret I keep to myself. (shhh, don't tell anyone).
What's so special about scientists and engineers. Ice crystals, stars or humans or bacteria are all various arrangements of matter having certain sets of properties on virtue of these arrangements. How we are arranged is different from how the sun or the ice crystal is arranged... thus bestowing different types of features and properties on each of these different forms of matter.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
It's a dark secret I keep to myself. (shhh, don't tell anyone).
Too late, you already told everyone.
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
It has been said "we are star stuff."
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
Well, the shame will never end now.
Not sure where you are going with this. Most elements in earth and hence in living systems is synthesized in stars. That is true.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Aren't you interested in how we know?
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
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I will flog myself in the morning, it is bit late here right now.
I've never figured out why the churches don't run vast research programs so we can do our own miracles instead of bothering the Olympians or whoever.Nobody on this team are trying to whip up additional critters, or none that don't come naturally. Yours is a theory that has yet to be proven, but I'm not saying you are wrong. It would be a miracle nonetheless.
It can't be that they lack faith, can it?
Salty Booger
Royal Crown Cola (RC)
Don't know. Maybe it isn't necessary.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
@Salty Booger Attempting to decypher your mangling of the quote function, are you suggesting that by possessing knowledge and understanding, one "serves science" (whatever that means)?