If you know what it is to sin, then why did you ask us?
And if you dont, then how can you tell I was wrong?
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Is marijuana use inherently sinful?
- Thread starter Afroknee
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If you know what it is to sin, then why did you ask us?
And if you dont, then how can you tell I was wrong?
Hehe yeah, that's true for me.
Once you feel the tremendous impact on your mind, you will probably not dare to touch the pipe again for a while hehehe lol.
Yes either do I think alcohol is more poisonous than weed. I always get sick after drinking, but for me that wouldn't be a reason to forbid the substance, since it has a good side as well.
Unfortunately there are men who abuse drugs and alcohol and thanks to them the government started to control our substances. This way the fun of good willing people is screwed up too. They just go beyond us, man.
Fornication is the only exceptional sin with respect to other sins. With fornication you actually sin against youself, but even for that you need a prostitute or someone's wife to commit it on.
Same is for the prostitute... it's a sin she commits against herself which she couldn't without a client.
Having sex with someone else his wife would even be a sin against her husband.
And if you desire your neighbor's material belongings you sin against him. Your jealousy will turn the owner sick, since you will be denying him. Anyway not every form of desire is bad. There are plenty examples of good things to desire.
roger1440
I do stuff
What do you mean by against yourself, against him and against her husband? Sin is the turning away from God.
It is only a slice of people who consider sin to be 'Turning from God'. Sin is anything short of perfection, so it can be anything from forgetting to comb your hair to making a bad career choice all the way up to doing something horrible.
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roger1440
I do stuff
If “only a slice of people who consider sin to be 'Turning from God'”, then these same people do not know Biblical scripture. One of the earliest references of sin to the “turning away from God” can be found in Deuteronomy. We are given two choices in life. We can either turn towards God or away from God.
“17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.
19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.” (Deuteronomy 30:17-19)
19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.” (Deuteronomy 30:17-19)
When I said that marijuana is usually a sin (a page or so back) I did not mean that it was turning away from God at all. Turning away from God is only one of the things that are sins in the Bible. For example: there are sins that people do on accident. Also in the passage you quote their hearts are turning away from life towards death, and it says they should choose life. It doesn't say they are choosing God. Perhaps there is another scripture verse that better represents your point, but this one only mentions gods, not God. Turning after other gods is indeed a sin according to this but it does not contain text that defines all sin as turning from God.
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Yes, and that is where it goes wrong with the judging part.
It should be for the victim to decide when evil is done to him.
For how it is right now they can actually lock me up for using drugs, though there's no victim that I hurt. They simply generalize certain codes of conduct to a sin, because I COULD have hurt somebody.
Jesus calls it: Judging after the flesh.
I understand in most cases it's wrong to get angry for example, but that doesn't mean it's ALWAYS wrong when a man gets angry. And so it is for the use of drugs.
In other words, what we see on the outside of someone, doesn't say anything of what is going on inside of him. So if we judge anyone after his outside, we're judging after his flesh and so innocent people get judged along with the evil ones.
Well, in any case it's not for the husband's benefit when I have seks with his wife. Neither it's for my own benefit when I have seks with a prostitute, since I would be dishonoring myself and she herself.
Of course am I also turning away from God this way, for God is with that concerning husband. Just as He is with me and with that prostitute.
But if I regret what I did, make it up again with her husband and stop having seks with his wife, I'd be turning back to God, wouldn't I?
JayJayDee
Avid JW Bible Student
I appreciate what you say, but from the Christian standpoint, breaking the law is not an option. The legality of marijuana is indeed an issue for Christians.
Alcohol is not forbidden to God's worshippers, but drunkenness is. It is we who must exercise our conscience in this matter. Alcohol is not illegal but causes many of the woes that humanity suffers. Nicotine also is in that category.
The powers that be have their reasons for not legalizing cannabis when other more potent (and more expensive) prescription drugs are available. The illegal trade in drugs such as methadone and Oxycontin prove that these prescription drugs are already being abused. It doesn't make their legitimate sale illegal. So one wonders why a medicinalized form of marijuana remains unavailable for use in many countries where it could do the most good.
I don't believe the reasons are valid....I believe they are financially motivated because it would cost so much less to produce medicine from an easily cultivated herb than from artificially produced drugs. How many pain relieving medicines would it make redundant? What cost would that entail for the pharmaceutical companies bottom line? I don't have confidence in this greedy system.
roger1440
I do stuff
The legality of marijuana is not part of the question that started this thread. Marijuana is legal in parts of the world right now. Using marijuana and using illegal marijuana is two different issues.I appreciate what you say, but from the Christian standpoint, breaking the law is not an option. The legality of marijuana is indeed an issue for Christians.
Alcohol is not forbidden to God's worshippers, but drunkenness is. It is we who must exercise our conscience in this matter. Alcohol is not illegal but causes many of the woes that humanity suffers. Nicotine also is in that category.
The powers that be have their reasons for not legalizing cannabis when other more potent (and more expensive) prescription drugs are available. The illegal trade in drugs such as methadone and Oxycontin prove that these prescription drugs are already being abused. It doesn't make their legitimate sale illegal. So one wonders why a medicinalized form of marijuana remains unavailable for use in many countries where it could do the most good.
I don't believe the reasons are valid....I believe they are financially motivated because it would cost so much less to produce medicine from an easily cultivated herb than from artificially produced drugs. How many pain relieving medicines would it make redundant? What cost would that entail for the pharmaceutical companies bottom line? I don't have confidence in this greedy system.
McDonalds and Starbucks could be sinful.
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jesusistheonlyway
New Member
Romans 14:14
e.r.m.
Church of Christ
It is a mind-altering drug. Totally not in the same category as, let's say comfort food, which puts us in a good mood. It is also known as a lazy man's drug, as it suppresses motivation. It has medical uses, like Marinol, which does have some benefits under a doctor's care. but there's also a movement to spread marijuana far and wide. There are people who spend much time and effort in this campaign & pursuit. I do not believe this drug deserves such attention.
jesusistheonlyway
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jesusistheonlyway
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I don't think people put it in the same category as food although you can put it in food. It is comparable to alcohol which is not evil. To have a beer or a glass of wine once a week or so is not sin to become drunk or consumed by it is. It also alters the mind or as the Bible says makes man's heart Mary. Marijuana also is not an automatic sin nor is it evil. I agree it doesn't need all this attention. If you think it is sin and do it anyway then it becomes sin even if it isn't sinful the fact that you choose to do something you believe to be sin makes it sinful. If it offend your brother and you do it in front of him no Matter what it is food wine or marijuana etc. That is sin . Keep it to yourself between you and God. It depends where your faith is. Love God with all your heart mind soul and strength and love your brother as yourself. Let nothing over take you know your self your soul your strength or will power. Do not abuse anything or anyone or else you convict yourself. All things can be used for good or evil even love. God know our hearts so we must walk upright with him with a clean conscience. Don't be a pot head don't be a drunkard. Don't follow man follow God. I hope some can receive it . Study Paul's writings.