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Is modern science informing us of a spiritual reality?
- Thread starter osgart
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osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
A spiritual reality is a reality that is perhaps non physical, or perhaps not, where the life essence resides. It can be a natural or supernatural force.
Audie
Veteran Member
That will not get a nsf grant
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I realize that. That comes from the stance that everything that exists is material.
Cobol
Code Jockey
Observation of experiment. and the development of falsifiable hypotheses, and the relentless questioning of established views—have proven uniquely powerful in revealing the surprising, underlying structure of the world we live in, including subatomic particles, the role of germs in the spread of disease, and the neural basis of mental life.
Spirituality has no equivalent record of discovering hidden truths.
Science and religion are as different as can be.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Even being that spirit reality was true, it would be the most impossible thing to detect.
Even finding all the neural correlates of consciousness, consciousness is still left unexplained.
Audie
Veteran Member
Show me an idiot so dimwitted as to think that.
ANYWAY I said that because your explanation is
just vague empty words. Nothing there.
Cobol
Code Jockey
Science can and does explain consciousness to an extent, and will do more of that in the future.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
So what do you say? Are there things non material?
YeshuaRedeemed
Revelation 3:10
Yes. I have learned a lot about my own health issues from science.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That would be a, if not the requirement for existence don't you think?
Mainstream science should still be agnostic on the question of a spiritual reality.
However I do see a more moving away from the mechanical understanding (allowing for spiritual realities) since the general acceptance of quantum mechanics, multiple dimensions, acceptance that consciousness is not yet understood, etc..
The sciences cannot and do not study what you call "spiritual reality." It's one of its limitations as a set of disciplines. Methodological naturalism is inherent to the sciences, and studying "spiritual reality" necessarily violates that method.
Audie
Veteran Member
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I think things like quantum entanglement defy physical description. Im open to the possibility of something more. But who knows.
Mox
Dr Green Fingers
Do you mean has modern science unearthed any evidence for realities beyond that of our own spacetime, which we could measure and observe or infer? If so, then not exactly. Hypothesis of extra dimensional frames of reference, many worlds and multiverses etc..do exist.
Mox
Dr Green Fingers
''Spooky action at a distance'' Einstein talking about entanglement.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Ho hum
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't think that's quite what they're doing.
There's still the requirement of the interaction with matter regardless.