Kelly of the Phoenix
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Not sure. There are so many from so many cultures to choose from ...BTW: Just out of curiosity, which Phoenix are you the Kelly of?
I'm not convinced you understand what "objective" means. An objective reality would exist outside any particular entity.Well if God does not exist then there exists no objective goal for actions to correspond to.
There is no objective purpose WITH God either. He could've made you just for laughs. Given His penchant for "I put you on this earth, I can take you off it" attitude prevalent in the bible, it's quite clear we aren't nearly as important as we like to imagine.It is that no objective purpose exists without God.
All of the above created suffering for their own ends. We can do long-term studies (not that it should be necessary if people have some common sense) to figure out the costs and benefits to certain behaviors.IOW is Hitler's, Stalin's, or Mother Theresa's purpose for morality the one we should take.
1. God's morality does not flow from his commands but from his eternal nature.
And then ...
Does "divine command" theory refer to divine COMMANDS or NATURE?Please look up divine command theory. It will save you a lot of the confusion you seem to be having. Your preference determines the nature of nothing.
LOL, what?Your a theist? Of which God, Pol Pot.
I'd like evidence you've read more than a Chick Tract's worth of verses from the bible. We'll both probably be disappointed.Before your train gets too far away from the station of truth you might want to first demonstrate that the God I believe in and the one your describing are the same, then prove you made justified accusations.
Grow up. I only typed that post once. If you're seeing it twice, it's on the board, not me.This is a carbon copy of your earlier identical statements.
You are honestly saying that without God we can't have morality and that anything He commands is good.I did not say anything about whether God being powerful makes anything he demands true.
I think Krishna said it too. And he's cuter.That is why Jesus told Pilate that he himself was THE truth, not A truth.
Being around for awhile doesn't make it an accurate picture of reality. With that logic, all religions that predate Christianity (including Judaism) must be more "right" because they've been around longer.4 were definitions that have existed for a thousand years or more and even if they required substantiation (which they do not) then a thousand years of use is as much substantiation as you could hope for, but I only wanted you to know what they were, not your agreement with them.
Now you've met some theists who call your "logic" into question. Must seem weird.1. Every single theist claims that objective morality exists and so God exists.
Whose revelations are we to use and why should we?So please tell me who's reason we are to use