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"Is our Sun a star?"

Skwim

Veteran Member
I stumbled across the following and thought it was rather amusing. Click on the link to see the fleshed-out presentation


I. INTRODUCTION
How many of you have heard this before: "Our Sun is just another star. In fact, it is an average star - one of 100 billion - in the Milky Way galaxy". What if it isn't just another star? What if what we know about the Sun does NOT apply to all the stars we see in the night sky? Would it throw the big bang theory into irreconcilable doubt? I believe it would.

The goal of this paper is to prove, using only the Bible, that the Sun is NOT a star. There are four major reasons from the Bible why I believe the Sun is not a star, and therefore the assumptions made about stars, their creation, their life, their death, their burn rate, the composition - basically every assumption we make about stars - are faulty. These faulty assumptions completely throw into doubt the theory of the evolution of the universe and the big bang theory.

In this paper I will show:

the Sun and stars had DIFFERENT BEGINNINGS in the creation story.
the Sun and stars are ALWAYS referred to separately in scripture, and
the Sun and stars have DIFFERENT PROPHETIC ENDINGS.
II. BIBLICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SUN AND STARS
THE SUN: The Sun was worshipped as a god Deu 4:19, Deu 17:3, II Ki 23:5

THE STARS: The stars are high in the heavens, Job 22:12

etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
III. BIBLICAL PROOF THAT OUR SUN IS NOT A STAR
1. There are different Hebrew and Greek words for Sun and stars.

2. The Sun and stars are always listed separately in Scripture.

3. Scriptures make certain distinctions about the Sun and stars.

4. The creation story, which definitely makes distinction between the Sun and the stars.
IV. CURRENT SECULAR SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
Blah, blah, blah.
V. THE BIG BANG THEORY IS DESTROYED
So what? What does it matter whether the Sun is a star or a special body created to sustain life on earth? These questions may be on your mind, but the EARTHSHAKING RAMIFICATIONS of the fact that our Sun is not a star are evident when you look at the theory of evolution and the big bang theory.

If our Sun is not a star, it blows a major hole in the scientific theories of how our universe was put together. It means there was an omniscient designer who carefully crafted our Sun and placed it where it is for special reasons. To admit this, for the scientific world, is clearly NOT an option, so more time and money will be spent on trying to KEEP GOD OUT of the equation. That is the way it has always been, and how it always will be, according to the Bible:

VI. CONCLUSION
In closing, the best evidence we can have is the very inspired words of God Almighty, who has clearly told us in his revelation to us that the Sun and stars and not the same. Here is a summary of the main arguments of this paper:

Over and over, the Sun and stars are mentioned separately in the same sentence. The Sun and stars have different Hebrew and Greek words and meanings Paul tells us that the Sun and stars are different in glory. Luke clearly distinguished between them in Acts 27. Moses tells us the Sun was created, then the stars were "also" created. David tells us in Psalm 72:17 that the Sun will endure forever. Isaiah tells us in Isaiah 13:10 that the stars will not give their light in the future, and Jesus tells us that stars will fall from the heaven. Yet Jesus also tells us that the Sun and stars will have different and separate prophetic futures - the Sun will only be "darkened" temporarily, since in the end, the Sun, according to David, and verses in Revelation, will endure FOREVER, while the stars will "fall from the heaven".

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dust1n

Zindīq
It's like the video of the preacher someone brought the other day.

Evolution is, for some reason mashed into "stellar evolution" and "cosmic evolution" and "planetary evolution." Makes sense. You have to address all of these if you think the universe is six thousand years old.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
It's like the video of the preacher someone brought the other day.

Evolution is, for some reason mashed into "stellar evolution" and "cosmic evolution" and "planetary evolution." Makes sense. You have to address all of these if you think the universe is six thousand years old.
You left out "left-leaning Latvian Lesbians". Just sayin' :sorry1:
 

dust1n

Zindīq
You left out "left-leaning Latvian Lesbians". Just sayin' :sorry1:

Exactly. There's literally billions of things that need to be compensated for if you think the universe started 7000 years, as opposed to say, >13.8 billion ago.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
ChristineES said:
Our Sun is a star. Now you know that at least one Christian doesn't believe that it isn't.
And I am quite sure that most Christians know that the sun is a star.

It just that some of them - literal creationists - are quite thick, and have no understanding of astronomy - or science for that matter. And I don't think this David Lowe - the author of the article or webpage - has any real understanding of the Big Bang theory.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't regard Sun Spirit as "just another star" either, but but the confounding of religious mythos and scientific logos here is just pathetic and ridiculous. They mythopoeticism in of itself doesn't bother me in the least, but the confounding? Urgh.
 

averageJOE

zombie
The paper loses all credibility when it said "The goal of this paper is to prove, using only the bible, that the sun is not a star."
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Our sun isnt an ordinary star. Its a special star! For us humans at least :p.

Exactly. :D It anchors our planet, and without it, we simply would not be. That makes it more worthy of honor and reverence in my book than all those other stars out there. I pretty much ignore them except as a collective background during night that looks pretty. *chuckles*
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Is the Sun a star?

Of course not. We all know it's a giant pixie lamp.

Without it, the turtles wouldn't see where they stand.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
ouroboros said:
Is the Sun a star?

Of course not. We all know it's a giant pixie lamp.

Without it, the turtles wouldn't see where they stand.

:eek:

Even if the pixie lamp is lit, a turtle still wouldn't know where it stand if it had its head in the shell.

Hello! :turtle:

hello...hello...hellllooo...lo... *echo in the shell*
 
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