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Is posting in opposition to homosexuality, same sex marriage, abortion allowed?

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
To me it's simply a matter of logical and intellectual consistency. I can "appreciate" just about any point of view, so long as it's discussed in a consistent manner and doesn't rest on fundamental double standards. The obverse to this is that I often end up in conflict with people whose views are similar to my own because they base them on inconsistencies and double standards.

I can tell where you're from by the large amount of sense you're making.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
People get banned and reprimanded for post's the RF doesn't advertise it. Whole debate threads have been closed and removed. It is all done quietly but firmly. Read the rules and you will be fine.
I've got only one warning so far and haven't noticed this. I have seen some people get banned, but that's normal for any forum.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I've got only one warning so far and haven't noticed this. I have seen some people get banned, but that's normal for any forum.

Its not a lot compared to other forums but it does happen. I been here a little longer than you so I've seen a little more.
 

outlawState

Deism is dead
Just curious if posting in opposition to the items mentioned, is allowed from a conservative historical point of view?

1. Homosexuality
2. Same Sex Marriage
3. Abortion
IMO, it isn't worth discussing such subjects, because they are political in nature and you will never change anyone's view, especially if they have come onto an internet forum to argue in their favour. And even where they are made out to be integral to religion, did Christ ever argue about such things? All he said was in Mat 5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.not one tittle will fall from the law." You will either love the law or you will loath it (says the OT) and Revelation 22:11 suggests that there is now very little point in discussing such things. There are more important things to discuss.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Just curious if posting in opposition to the items mentioned, is allowed from a conservative historical point of view?

1. Homosexuality
2. Same Sex Marriage
3. Abortion
As our friend @Subduction Zone has been given to say, of late, "Hon, let your freak flag fly!"
Just remember, if you cannot handle the heat, it's probably best to stay out of the kitchen.
*goes back to sharpening his tiny little razor sharp fangs*

Keep in mind that I am a conservative poster and that it might be helpful to remember that not all Conservatives are not knuckle-dragging, Bible-thumping, country bumpkins suffering from a range of mental challenges.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Just remember, if you cannot handle the heat, it's probably best to stay out of the kitchen.
@Truth7t7
This is an important point.
I don't mean this personally, since I don't know you. But in my experience, conservative Christians are often quite taken aback by the fairness of the RF staff.
They aren't accustomed to a level playing field. They're more accustomed getting deference and dominating the conversation, the way things are in most other places.
Tom
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Of course people who disagree are going to voice their opposing views. That's kind of the point of a discussion/debate forum.
That's totally false I can't believe you believe that. The sole purpose for discussion/debate forum is for my personal entertainment!!!!!!!!! Science and religion both have clearly proved we can be absurd.

I guess based on that I must turn and agree with you, if the witch floats we burn her.

 

Truth7t7

Jesus Rules
As our friend @Subduction Zone has been given to say, of late, "Hon, let your freak flag fly!"
Just remember, if you cannot handle the heat, it's probably best to stay out of the kitchen.
*goes back to sharpening his tiny little razor sharp fangs*

Keep in mind that I am a conservative poster and that it might be helpful to remember that not all Conservatives are not knuckle-dragging, Bible-thumping, country bumpkins suffering from a range of mental challenges.
Your a conservative Christian, opposing the three items below, correct?

1. Homosexuality
2. Same Sex Marriage
3. Abortion
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Your a conservative Christian, opposing the three items below, correct?

1. Homosexuality
2. Same Sex Marriage
3. Abortion
I can see that reading comprehension, in relation to nuanced word usage, is not one of your strong suits, so we will keep this short.

1. I am a gay conservative *sigh*
2. I have no issue with human animals getting married or pair bonding. It seems like quite a natural thing quite honestly.
3. Being a gay male, I've never been personally interested in abortion. I'd never have one. :D

Where did I claim to be a Christian? Are you under the misapprehension that all Conservatives are also Christians?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I can see that reading comprehension, in relation to nuanced word usage, is not one of your strong suits, so we will keep this short.

1. I am a gay conservative *sigh*
2. I have no issue with human animals getting married or pair bonding. It seems like quite a natural thing quite honestly.
3. Being a gay male, I've never been personally interested in abortion. I'd never have one. :D

Where did I claim to be a Christian? Are you under the misapprehension that all Conservatives are also Christians?
Wait, waiit. You're gay and against homosexuality? Hmmmm, maybe this is due to a severe lack of coffee on my part:confused:


Aaaah, that's better.

What was I thinking?:p
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I can see that reading comprehension, in relation to nuanced word usage, is not one of your strong suits, so we will keep this short.

1. I am a gay conservative *sigh*
2. I have no issue with human animals getting married or pair bonding. It seems like quite a natural thing quite honestly.
3. Being a gay male, I've never been personally interested in abortion. I'd never have one. :D

Where did I claim to be a Christian? Are you under the misapprehension that all Conservatives are also Christians?
Wait, waiit. You're gay and against homosexuality? Hmmmm, maybe this is due to a severe lack of coffee on my part:confused:


Aaaah, that's better.

What was I thinking?:p
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Your a conservative Christian, opposing the three items below, correct?

1. Homosexuality
2. Same Sex Marriage
3. Abortion
I am a cultural Christian, but that isn't why I vehemently oppose elective abortion.
As a conservative gay atheist, I am very much in favor of people getting married, including gay people.

Want to discuss those? Rf is a good place to do so.
Tom
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Wait, waiit. You're gay and against homosexuality? Hmmmm, maybe this is due to a severe lack of coffee on my part:confused:


Aaaah, that's better.

What was I thinking?:p
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
IMO, it isn't worth discussing such subjects, because they are political in nature and you will never change anyone's view, especially if they have come onto an internet forum to argue in their favour. And even where they are made out to be integral to religion, did Christ ever argue about such things? All he said was in Mat 5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.not one tittle will fall from the law." You will either love the law or you will loath it (says the OT) and Revelation 22:11 suggests that there is now very little point in discussing such things. There are more important things to discuss.
I used to oppose gay marriage. It was through discussion that I learned the errors of my ways. And of course it was the hypocrisy of those that opposed it that finally sealed the deal. One would see conservative Christians complaining about the promiscuous behavior of gay men that convinced me that those opposing this were wrong. It is hypocritical to say that people cannot legally settle down and be with one person and to oppose the behavior that results from that ban.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
People on this site who oppose abortion and gay marriage seem to include:

Me
@outlawState
@columbus (abortion he opposes)
@Sakeenah (?)
@KenS (?)
@Deeje
@Hockeycowboy (?)
@Prestor John
@Terese (?)
@Tumah (? Not sure if just for his community ?)

Hmmm....

First, I am of the viewpoint that people will do whatever they want to do. People tend to highlight one area, let's say gay marriage, which seems to exclude other areas, infidelity, sex slavery etc.

Second, I also realize that everybody has a past and so I don't cast judgment on anyone. After all, I believe in the redemptive work of Jesus Christ who died for ALL sin (was I shouting? :) ) and rose from the dead so that all people can experience new life by His power.

Third, personally speaking, I'm against abortion unless the mother is at risk of loosing her life. (Lest someone thinks that I have that opinion only because I am of the male gender, my wife has the same viewpoint). However, since I do know that it happens, we just offer our love, support and prayers for those who have gone through it. We have a personal friend who is having trouble becoming pregnant as a result of abortions. Another has received healing from a broken heart for the same reason. A young lady who survived a saline abortion is also against it. And the list goes on.

Having friends who have been in the gay life-style and spending time with those who have chosen to continue, they are free to be with whoever they want to be. I may not agree with it but then again it shouldn't stop me from loving my neighbor. The same with those who live together, have babies together and aren't married yet. I don't go around condemning people because "I is" a "people" too. And if I go around throwing rocks, I shouldn't be surprised if one hits my head :D Instead, I preach "For God so love the world (that's ALL sinners including me... am I shouting again? :) ) that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever (that's anyone) believeth in Him will not perish but have everlasting life.

Some have gone back to heterosexual, some have died because they continued, but they all needed love and support. I let God sort out all of the nuances.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member

Truth7t7

Jesus Rules
Hmmm....

First, I am of the viewpoint that people will do whatever they want to do. People tend to highlight one area, let's say gay marriage, which seems to exclude other areas, infidelity, sex slavery etc.

Second, I also realize that everybody has a past and so I don't cast judgment on anyone. After all, I believe in the redemptive work of Jesus Christ who died for ALL sin (was I shouting? :) ) and rose from the dead so that all people can experience new life by His power.

Third, personally speaking, I'm against abortion unless the mother is at risk of loosing her life. (Lest someone thinks that I have that opinion only because I am of the male gender, my wife has the same viewpoint). However, since I do know that it happens, we just offer our love, support and prayers for those who have gone through it. We have a personal friend who is having trouble becoming pregnant as a result of abortions. Another has received healing from a broken heart for the same reason. A young lady who survived a saline abortion is also against it. And the list goes on.

Having friends who have been in the gay life-style and spending time with those who have chosen to continue, they are free to be with whoever they want to be. I may not agree with it but then again it shouldn't stop me from loving my neighbor. The same with those who live together, have babies together and aren't married yet. I don't go around condemning people because "I is" a "people" too. And if I go around throwing rocks, I shouldn't be surprised if one hits my head :D Instead, I preach "For God so love the world (that's ALL sinners including me... am I shouting again? :) ) that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever (that's anyone) believeth in Him will not perish but have everlasting life.

Some have gone back to heterosexual, some have died because they continued, but they all needed love and support. I let God sort out all of the nuances.
Kens I agree with your response 100%, im of the same substance, on treating all people "outside the church doors"?

Do you believe Homosexuality and Christianity are compatible?

Your the pastor/priest of the flock, and you have a homosexual couple in the church that are "practicing" same sex intercourse homosexuality?

Do they stay accepted as the body of Christ in membership, "Without Mention" of their known self admitted sexual behavior in open proclamation?

Romans 1:24-32KJV
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 
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