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Is premarital sex a good, a bad, or a nuetral event in terms of ethics and of effect?

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
It seems there have been several studies showing that couples who not only have premarital sex, but who also cohabitate before marriage, are more likely to divorce once they get married than couples who do not cohabitate before marriage. That might be of concern.
 

Ethos88

Member
Sex is natural, Religious zealots who condemn you for engaging in it are just stupid. Also, regular ejaculation of males has been proven to reduce the risks or prostate cancer.
 

AxisMundi

E Pluribus Unum!!!
Explain..

IMHO...

Especially for the Abrahamics, sex is simply the most effective theopolitical tool at their disposal, litterally grabing people by the shorts. This has led to a demonizing of sex outside of the control limits of religious doctrine (such as marriage), which has led to certain hangups and sexual psychosis in western culture.

Sex is a natural activity, shown to have dozens of benificial side effects from easing back pain to improved cardio-vascular health.

"Bad" comes into play when, for example, one cheats on a committed spouse or S/O, or lies to get someone in bed (Yeah, 'course I love ya, now get naked) as another example.
 

Duck

Well-Known Member
Explain..

Premarital sex is ethically neutral, IMHO. The potential for premarital sex to be NOT ethically neutral comes from actions that lead to said premarital sex. If one party acts in an other than ethical manner in order to convince the other party to have the premarital sex, then the premarital sex would assume a characteristic that was not ethically neutral, I think.

What I am trying to say, is that the sex isn't ethically suspect, but the actions of the participants could be.
 

MSizer

MSizer
Neutral. Of course mutual consent is necessary, and a violation of such would be immoral, and also of course proper health measures are prudent. Sex in and of itself is ethically neutral.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I'd say it's neutral. As long as there is mutual consent and both parties are careful if they don't want a baby, then I don't think words like "good" or "bad" come into it.

It seems there have been several studies showing that couples who not only have premarital sex, but who also cohabitate before marriage, are more likely to divorce once they get married than couples who do not cohabitate before marriage. That might be of concern.

That could be because the only couples these days who don't have sex or cohabitate before marriage are very religious and take marriage and divorce extremely seriously, much more seriously than your average not-so-religious couple. That may mean they are more likely to tough it out or work through their problems.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
hmmmm i dont think permarrital sex is right, I believe sex is a bueatiful thing that God created and that for its proper use it should be done within a marraige.
 
Marriage is a contract with the state and/or the church. Other than legally or religiously speaking, it plays no part whatsoever in the actual nuts and bolts of a relationship. It is a non-entity.
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
I would have to say neutral as long as there is consent and health is taken into consideration. I have heard of the studies Sunstone mentioned though. I think part the reason people split up more frequently after living together or having premarital sex is because they have two less things that are special about marriage. It kind of takes away part of the point of marriage I suppose. Now true those are not good reasons to get married if there isn't love and a want of being together for the rest of the couple's lives.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
I think the moral or ethical value of sex is entirely dependent upon context, motivations, and the individuals involved. One can have perfectly ethical or moral non-marital sex (pre-, post-, whatever) and immoral or unethical marital sex, as well as vice-versa.

Personally, I think it's deeply unhealthy to stay a virgin until one is mature enough to commit to marriage, and equally unhealthy to get married too young because one is thinking with one's sex organs. My mother-- wise woman that she is-- always advised me, "Never marry someone you haven't slept with," and "Never marry someone you haven't lived with for at least six months first." My wife and I started having sex on our second date, and lived together for a year before getting married. Our marriage couldn't be happier or more functional.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
I believe pre-marital sex is the only way to find out if the sex is good before you marry somebody :p
 

Paigey

New Member
I think it's wrong if you have sex with everything that moves because, to me, that means that you have no respect for yourself and/or your body.
 

Walkntune

Well-Known Member
I think it's wrong if you have sex with everything that moves because, to me, that means that you have no respect for yourself and/or your body.
I think you are right and a lot of people look at sex very shallow.They look for what they can take from somone selfishly instead of what they can give and share. There is a difference between having sex and making love and unfortunately when you give yourself out casually you loose the conviction of the difference.
 

joea

Oshoyoi
In a better, more intelligent world, people will love, but will not make any contracts. It is not a business! They will understand each other, and they will understand the changing flux of life. They will be true to each other. The moment the man feels that now his beloved holds no joy for him, he will say that the time has come to part. There is no need for marriage, there is no need for divorce. Then friendship will be possible. You ask me why friendship is not possible between men and women.... Friendship is not possible between the jailer and the imprisoned.
 
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