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Is premarital sex a good, a bad, or a nuetral event in terms of ethics and of effect?

*Anne*

Bliss Ninny
To share yourself with another person is as close as you get in becoming one with that person(or bringing a new life into the world that you are both apart of.)

I'll stop you there and agree wholeheartedly. :)

I don't bother with what others do, but for me personally, I like having an intimate connection with only one person.
 

McBell

Unbound
Well when you leave a fight and you always have that sissy that jumps you from the back, you have to shake' em off
Sissy?

rotflmao

I have been called much worse by much better.

So, Are you going to stick around and have MSizer hand your arse to you some more?

I would like for you to.
It was most entertaining.
And if you do, I will not need to post any more this thread.
 

joea

Oshoyoi
Sissy?

rotflmao

I have been called much worse by much better.

So, Are you going to stick around and have MSizer hand your arse to you some more?

I would like for you to.
It was most entertaining.
And if you do, I will not need to post any more this thread.

Dude..
Put a smile on your face and enjoy life for once....
 

Walkntune

Well-Known Member
Sissy?

rotflmao

I have been called much worse by much better.

So, Are you going to stick around and have MSizer hand your arse to you some more?

I would like for you to.
It was most entertaining.
And if you do, I will not need to post any more this thread.

Glad you see it entertaining. It bothers me personally to see people take advantage of others lustfully for there own sexual satisfaction.Even when they consent if you can't tell whether or not they really have feelings then in my book your taken advantage of someone hurting.Anyone with character and integrity will know that just because a woman is consenting doesn't mean it is appropriate.There could be many reasons why she could be consenting to your lustful ways and you could be causing so much more damage than you know.Sorry I don't get my morals from reading bathroom walls but I am not into all of the crap that the cattle of society are following.
You think I lost a debate in here but your thinking may be a little limited. Personally if i touch one persons heart and get them to really re-evaluate there own situation or encourage them to really want what's best for themselves then I can care less what other words are spewed out.
And I write this because it bothers me a lot!
 
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*Anne*

Bliss Ninny
:) Thank you. Me too!

I was pretty old fashioned from the get go. Lucky me, I found a guy who thinks along the same lines.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
Explain..

It is amoral... There is nothing immoral with making love to the one you love. It is immoral to force someone to do as you wish in bed. Marriage has nothing to do with it as far as I am concerned.
 

Cosmos

Member
From my personal point of view sex before marriage is negative in terms of ethics and moral effect. It is not merely the physical sex act that is unethical, but the immaturity of the situation when there is not a union or interchange of one another on an emotional and spiritual level there is unrighteousness in that, for it dishonors both parties. Sex doesn't just have to do with consent between two people who desire intercourse, as true the true relationship and intercourse also extends to the party's respective family members. Personally as someone who has had unconscionable sex with others, it has taught me life lessons in my young life about the nature of human desire and our real needs.
 

Walkntune

Well-Known Member
From my personal point of view sex before marriage is negative in terms of ethics and moral effect. It is not merely the physical sex act that is unethical, but the immaturity of the situation when there is not a union or interchange of one another on an emotional and spiritual level there is unrighteousness in that, for it dishonors both parties. Sex doesn't just have to do with consent between two people who desire intercourse, as true the true relationship and intercourse also extends to the party's respective family members. Personally as someone who has had unconscionable sex with others, it has taught me life lessons in my young life about the nature of human desire and our real needs.

Most people don't think this deep and profound.They don't see past the consequences of their own selfish satisfied urges!
 

McBell

Unbound
Glad you see it entertaining. It bothers me personally to see people take advantage of others lustfully for there own sexual satisfaction.Even when they consent if you can't tell whether or not they really have feelings then in my book your taken advantage of someone hurting.Anyone with character and integrity will know that just because a woman is consenting doesn't mean it is appropriate.There could be many reasons why she could be consenting to your lustful ways and you could be causing so much more damage than you know.Sorry I don't get my morals from reading bathroom walls but I am not into all of the crap that the cattle of society are following.
You think I lost a debate in here but your thinking may be a little limited. Personally if i touch one persons heart and get them to really re-evaluate there own situation or encourage them to really want what's best for themselves then I can care less what other words are spewed out.
And I write this because it bothers me a lot!
Ok, it bothers you.
So don't do it.

However all you have done is make assumptions about MSizer and then created strawmen based upon your assumptions.
That is why you had your arse handed to you.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
From my personal point of view sex before marriage is negative in terms of ethics and moral effect. It is not merely the physical sex act that is unethical, but the immaturity of the situation when there is not a union or interchange of one another on an emotional and spiritual level there is unrighteousness in that, for it dishonors both parties.

This is what I do not understand. How exactly does one ever become sexually mature without having sex? On the honeymoon, would both virgins not still be sexually immature? Am I suppose to think that someone who has had sex with fifty different partners in twenty years is less sexually mature than a young married couple whom are virgins? And is it not possible to be on the correct 'emotional and spiritual level' while having sex outside marriage? I've had intercourse that has been lustful, sure, but I've had intercourse the genuinely was on an intense emotional level, hell, maybe even spiritual.

Sex doesn't just have to do with consent between two people who desire intercourse, as true the true relationship and intercourse also extends to the party's respective family members.

Surely it does, but parents are often overbearing over a teenager's sex life and never taken the teenager's perspective into any actual consideration. I can not help if my mother thinks my actions are immoral, because I see no immorality in it.

Personally as someone who has had unconscionable sex with others, it has taught me life lessons in my young life about the nature of human desire and our real needs.

And how is anyone suppose to learn those life lessons about nature of human desire and our real needs without also having unconscionable sex?
 

Walkntune

Well-Known Member
Ok, it bothers you.
So don't do it.

However all you have done is make assumptions about MSizer and then created strawmen based upon your assumptions.
That is why you had your arse handed to you.
I was in here for the discussion, not the drama. Please take the Jerry Springer mentality somewhere else.
 

Evandr

Stripling Warrior
Sex is natural, Religious zealots who condemn you for engaging in it are just stupid. Also, regular ejaculation of males has been proven to reduce the risks or prostate cancer.

I disagree, Sex is healthy, energizing, fun, and very satisfying if properly respected. It is also the means wherein two people usher into mortality other of God's children and that is a sacred responsibility not to be taken lightly, so sacred that some very strict bounds have been established with regard to it. It is not to be trifled with nor is stepping outside those bounds to be justified in any way. If two people stay within those bounds the joy is great and the satisfaction extends throughout mortal existence and the joyful effects thereof continue to grow throughout eternity. Sadly though, the sorrow of disobedience does the same. The rules regarding sex are really quite simple and for good reason, going afoul is too easy and the ramifications of setting aside something so simple and sacred to satisfy ones own animal instincts are eternally far reaching and can shake the very eternal foundations of those children that result from such unauthorized sexual unions. This is why immorality as defined by God is such a serious offence. I believe it is also why some (and not a few) want to declare themselves as Atheists’; it makes it easier to tune out guilt as they mindlessly seek instant gratification in all its forms regardless of the consequences.
 
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