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Is premarital sex moral or immoral?

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So what do we do with our natural sexual desires if not sex or masturbation? If we tamp it down, it comes out in negative and harmful ways.
I was baptized in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by a guy who had been clean 10 years. I didn't know of any problems with his past.

Sex in marriage to have kids or show love to your partner is good.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Well if you are obese and not addicted to overeating more power to you... I just read that it taps the reward system of your brain heavily.
I haven't heard that. Being overweight can be caused by many things, overeating being one of them. It was a combination of a bad diet and lack of activity in my case.
 
Anyone who is in cohoots with the devil doesn't have the good sense of God or anyone else in her.

Unless she's trying to rule the world she's safe. The devil is an old fashioned entity primarily there to test mystics by tempting them with power, riches celebrity yadayadayada. I met him once and I laughed at him. He won't be interested in her. Right at this moment it isn't the devil that is causing harm, its your own fear that is harming you and alienating others from you. Get a grip on yourself.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Water intoxication is a potentially life threatening condition.

Water intoxication - Wikipedia
Nearly all deaths related to water intoxication in normal individuals have resulted either from water-drinking contests, in which individuals attempt to consume large amounts of water, or from long bouts of exercise during which excessive amounts of fluid were consumed. In addition, water cure, a method of torture in which the victim is forced to consume excessive amounts of water, can cause water intoxication.

To me, this is like saying that a person will masturbate every 15-20 minutes in every day. I still think it's a poor analogy.
I'm still waiting for Shadow Wolf to tell me what body signs does one look for to know that they are masturbating too much.

If one is going to argue that the only harm in masturbating, is doing it too often, then one needs to consider the other known harms, such as psychological.
Besides that, the physical harm, as was mentioned.
Bottom line... there is harm.

How about this one... having sex is good, so what's the harm in sex as often as what's considered overdoing masturbation?
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Not only do I think premarital sex is perfectly fine, I think that abstaining from sex until marriage is generally a bad idea.

When a couple abstains until marriage:

- it can create pressure to marry just to have sex.
- it robs the couple of knowing whether they're compatible in an important way before they actually make the commitment of marriage.

It also perpetuates the idea that marriage is a breeding arrangement and not a partnership based on love.

All in all, I'd say that a couple that abstains until marriage is setting themselves up for a higher risk of divorce. Because of this, I think that this means that teaching abstinence is generally incompatible - or at least problematic - with upholding the sanctity of marriage.
So it's lusting after the sex organs and the pleasure one can derive, rather than the love of the person.
In that case, why is such a person even thinking of marriage?
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
If somebody were occupied with looking at pornography on his home computer, then he would not be in public where he could sexually assault anybody.
There has been a number of cases where a person sexually assaulted a family member (very young), after watching porn, on their home computer.
 
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