Is religion inferior to logic ?

[zerogain]

In trying to understand any subject , it is firstly of most importance to understand the first principles of a subject. Any branch of knowledge that is taught , should always have strong routes , from a starting point to a conclusion . If this basic principle is not adhered to , then the practitioner becomes ill-informed , having an inadequate awareness of the facts.
Let us now be clear in our understanding of what is a fact compared to interpretation . A fact is something that is known or proved to be true , it is not something that is solely written on paper . A fact has supporting evidence such as observations , a fact can sometimes be an axiom , something that is self evidently true . If we ignore the facts and/or axioms then we are just being subjective as opposed objective. This information is then ill-informed information and can be misleading to a student ,allowing them false ideologies of a subject .

If a diety existed , then this diety would require the ability to think !

Therefore God = Wavefunction / Volume

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It is clearly understood that Force equals Mass times Acceleration while, clearly, a pendulum's Arc is NEVER a straight line. Furthermore, the distance from Death Valley to Peoria is greater than the Frequency of Puce.

Therefore Pizza = Flatbread + Sauce + Cheese +/- Anchovies

 

[PureX]

OHMMMMM.....

 

[zerogain]

It is clearly understood that Force equals Mass time Acceleration while, clearly, a pendulum's Arc is NEVER a straight line. Furthermore, the distance from Death Valley to Peoria is greater than the Frequency of Puce.

Therefore Pizza = Flatbread + Sauce + Cheese +/- Anchovies

The first principle of evidence should always be in determining if the evidence is relative to the subject or the evidence has another meaning(s) . One should never automatically assume that the alledged evidence proves something to be true because evidence can be viewed in different contexts by the observer. It is important we are clear in our minds what the evidence is relative to, or this can lead to false facts entering the education system .
Reliable first principle information and reliable evidence is imperative for building a factual underlying basis of any subject. Without this first principle, any subject is open to ridicule and expression of disapproval .The reliability of proceding information that is derived from principle information , can be considered in being only as reliable as the principle information . If strict disciplines of how we view principle information is not adhered too , then again proceding information may not be factual information .

Your equation is correct , you accounted for optional Anchovies !

 

[PureX]

Logic is the process of interrelating facts in such a way that they validate each other. It's a very useful process, but we shouldn't make more of it than it is.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

OHMMMMM.....

Or, in deference to Douglas Hofstadter, ...

MU!​

 

[zerogain]

Logic is the process of interrelating facts in such a way that they validate each other. It's a very useful process, but we shouldn't make more of it than it is.

Without logic there can only be chaos because interrelating facts would be ignored !

Reliable first principle information and reliable evidence is imperative for building a factual underlying basis of any subject. A fact is something that is known or proved to be true , it is not something that is solely written on paper .

Logically , any diety would require the ability to think , if we ignore the facts and/or axioms then we are just being subjective as opposed objective.

 

[exchemist]

In trying to understand any subject , it is firstly of most importance to understand the first principles of a subject. Any branch of knowledge that is taught , should always have strong routes , from a starting point to a conclusion . If this basic principle is not adhered to , then the practitioner becomes ill-informed , having an inadequate awareness of the facts.
Let us now be clear in our understanding of what is a fact compared to interpretation . A fact is something that is known or proved to be true , it is not something that is solely written on paper . A fact has supporting evidence such as observations , a fact can sometimes be an axiom , something that is self evidently true . If we ignore the facts and/or axioms then we are just being subjective as opposed objective. This information is then ill-informed information and can be misleading to a student ,allowing them false ideologies of a subject .

If a diety existed , then this diety would require the ability to think !

Therefore God = Wavefunction / Volume

Aha, Theorist/Sustainer/James Blunt/ANEWDAWN/The Broken Soul etc., etc., back again, as yet another sockpuppet, with more nonsense.

It's been a while, but evidently too much to hope that he had gone away for good.

I wonder how his neurological reference frames are coming along, these days........

Just so readers are aware, the game is usually to start a discussion based on some semi-scientific nonsense and then to keep it going by means of replies with just enough science to keep people responding, but simultaneously adding a drip-feed of new nonsense, requiring further requests for correction, requests for clarification and so on. I suppose the idea is see how long he can make it last before people give up or, on science forms at least, he gets banned as a sock or for time-wasting. (Here on RF he adds a bit of religious-sounding mumbo jumbo, hence the equation with God in it.)

 

[exchemist]

OHMMMMM.....

No need to bring electrical resistance into this.....

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

In trying to understand any subject , it is firstly of most importance to understand the first principles of a subject. Any branch of knowledge that is taught , should always have strong routes , from a starting point to a conclusion . If this basic principle is not adhered to , then the practitioner becomes ill-informed , having an inadequate awareness of the facts.
Let us now be clear in our understanding of what is a fact compared to interpretation . A fact is something that is known or proved to be true , it is not something that is solely written on paper . A fact has supporting evidence such as observations , a fact can sometimes be an axiom , something that is self evidently true . If we ignore the facts and/or axioms then we are just being subjective as opposed objective. This information is then ill-informed information and can be misleading to a student ,allowing them false ideologies of a subject .

If a diety existed , then this diety would require the ability to think !

Therefore God = Wavefunction / Volume

I have an axiom, which is a fact. I am the Truth. Therefore anything you say otherwise is false. Can you tell, how that has several problems?

 

[Revoltingest]

I liked the part about anchovies.

 

[zerogain]

I have an axiom, which is a fact. I am the Truth. Therefore anything you say otherwise is false. Can you tell, how that has several problems?

A person(s) can't be the truth , they can only be observers of the truth !

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

A person(s) can't be the truth , they can only be observers of the truth !

But an axiom can't be observed, so it can't be true. Yet you claim that sometimes axioms are true. So which is it?

 

[zerogain]

But an axiom can't be observed, so it can¨t be true. Yet you claim that sometimes axioms are true. So which is it?

A diety would require the ability to think = axiom

Not all axioms are observed !

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

A diety would require the ability to think = axiom

Not all axioms are observed !

So therefore they are not true according to your rule of truth.

 

[zerogain]

So therefore they are not true according to your rule of truth.

A fact can sometimes be an axiom , something that is self evidently true .

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

A fact can sometimes be an axiom , something that is self evidently true .

Explain that.

 

[zerogain]

Explain that.

Example 1: It is self evident that if I drop something , it falls to the ground . (observation)

Example 2: It is self evident that if a tree falls it creates a sound wave even if nobody is there to hear it . (logic)

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Example 1: It is self evident that if I drop something , it falls to the ground . (observation)

Example 2: It is self evident that if a tree falls it creates a sound wave even if nobody is there to hear it . (logic)

For the second one it depends on what a sound is.
For the first one it is not self-evident. It is an observation.

X is X is self-evident. That a bachelor is an unmarried man is self-evident.

 

[zerogain]

For the second one it depends on what a sound is.
For the first one it is not self-evident. It is an observation.

X is X is self-evident. That a bachelor is an unmarried man is self-evident.

A sound is what we hear when our ears detect a sound wave , that is self evident and an axiom . Observation is self evident mostly , it is an axiom that when we drop something it falls to the ground , this can be easily tested over and over again . X is only X because we define X in being X , X doesn't actually exist without definition . X is actually false in regards to axioms .