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Actually, you're posting and not saying.
It doesn't matter if you like it or not, its the way it is, if you cannot handle it then stay away from anything that goes against what you believe, and live in your little word of happiness.Actually, you're posting and not saying.
As much as atheism or any other dogma, for that fact.
It's not even a fact, much less 'well known'. It's just your bias showing through trying to act superior. That you can't see that makes me question your own intelligence.
I guess that's one way to justify bias and bigotry. I guess you can't expect eloquence from such.
You are very insecure, nowhere did I say i was better than you, nowhere did I say all religious are dumb, I asked the question, "is religion making us dumb", because I know it mad me dumb once, we dumber than I am now lol..........do you get it now ?.
I completely disagree with you... why can't you accept that? You have tried to show superiority through having a higher intelligence by being an atheist. It doesn't appear that your switch to atheism has helped your comprehension of logic one whit. Again, you've provided absolutely and unequivocally no evidence to support your premises or your conclusions. Just your wishful thinking and biased wishful thinking at that.
Look you are a very insecure person, you are so over whelmed with your beliefs, that you cannot see the truth that is in front of you, brighten up[ baby !,.
OK, I won't be selfish, Just google "referee fallacy meme". You can also Google any fallacy and find lots of memes to help get the message across. The one that fits @psychoslice best is this one (except he's provided us absolutely no evidence):
Have you tried googling? The surveys and studies are out there.
We specially bred them. They're chimpanzee-zebra crosses.
I've seen more than a few, but none of them demonstrate that becoming a theist reduces your IQ. None have proven that becoming an atheist increases your IQ. There's no substantial correlation that can be drawn here, other than that most atheists are single white males and that IQ tests are slanted in their favor. Please, if you have a definitive study I've managed to overlook, trot it out. It's not my duty to present your evidence for you. If you say the evidence exists, then the onus is on you to produce it.
Good point. Was someone saying becoming a theist or atheist affects IQ? I hadn't picked up on that. I have the feeling I'm being included in a camp of someone else's making.
Isn't this what Psychoslice is accusing you of?
You misunderstand me. I'm in agreement, here. You're imputing an attitude and opinion I haven't ascribe to. My post #290 was referring to surveys like the Pew Forum's, finding that atheists knew more about religion than the religious did. I'm not saying anything about IQ -- at this point....
It's cunningly hidden in the title of the thread
psychoslice said:
Not really. He's accusing me of being an insecure person, overwhelmed by my beliefs, having a chip on my shoulder, etc. etc. It's a typical ad hominem attack. Instead of showing how my ideas and beliefs are wrong, he simply tries to destroy me instead. It's not working, and no matter how hard he tries to belittle me and my logic, we stand firm. I'm not about to let anyone's bias or even bigotry make me feel inferior.
Good for you.
Well, you were suggesting that I could Google the information @psychoslice was referring to. In the future, if you change directions, you might want to signal your intent. I'm not psychic and can't read minds. I assumed we were on the same subject and had no indication from you that our topic had changed even slightly. As for the reliability of surveys, studies and the like, I would quote Samuel Clemons, aka Mark Twain: "There are lies, damn lies and statistics!" The only person who really knows what they believe is the individual holding to those beliefs. Too many try to stuff their interpretation or assumption of what someone believes down their throat. The motives are probably as diverse as the misconceptions paraded around as truth. In other words, how could an atheist claim to know more than the person with the beliefs? It just doesn't make sense and seems to be one of those studies carefully designed to suggest some sort of superiority. I can do without that kind of bias presented as science. It's only pseudo-science at that point.
@psychoslice refers to IQ tests. He's the OP, so that's how I'm reading it.
This is true of theists and atheists alike. Either can be abusive. Either can be sheeple. Either can rely on emotions for their beliefs. Either can claim superiority of some fashion. In other words, either can by biased and even bigoted. For that matter, neither have incontrovertible truth other than their own faith. There is no superiority. The only difference is one believes in a God or Gods and the other does not. We are all human and subject to human strengths and frailties. That's the bottom line. We are equal.
Watch it... your bias is showing. Your experience isn't everyone's experience. What may be difficult for you to accept, might very well be easy as pie for me. Such is faith and atheists rely on that as much as any theist. There is no superiority in belief of disbelief. There never was. There never will be.
