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Is Richard Dawkins a good scientist?

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I think he's more too interested in religion than in his science, but he is an evolutionary biologist. A lot of evolutionary biologists don't give two ****s about religion, just like to study science... unlike Dawkins.

It doesn't really make him a bad scientist though.
 

Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
Maybe what's in the article was seen as OK...but the Times decided upon the title to use. It would be their prerogative to use whatever title they see fit.

Are you seriously suggesting that just because the Times has the prerogative to change the title that they did? If so, what was the original title you are claiming Dawkins wanted to use?

Regardless, even if the Times did change the title, and there is no proof presented here that they did, Dawkins could have changed it back when he posted it on his website. He didn't. Why?
 

CynthiaCypher

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I think he's more too interested in religion than in his science, but he is an evolutionary biologist. A lot of evolutionary biologists don't give two ****s about religion, just like to study science... unlike Dawkins.

It doesn't really make him a bad scientist though.

But just doing science and being an educator wouldn't give you super-stardom. Dawkins wants to be a superstar. Unfortunately some people have made him one.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Are you seriously suggesting that just because the Times has the prerogative to change the title that they did? If so, what was the original title you are claiming Dawkins wanted to use?

And you have the propensity to mis-quote and misrepresent others arguments. I DID NOT say they "changed" the title. I said it was their prerogative to use whatever title they saw fit to use.


Regardless, even if the Times did change the title, and there is no proof presented here that they did, Dawkins could have changed it back when he posted it on his website. He didn't. Why?

:facepalm:
 

Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
I think he's more too interested in religion than in his science, but he is an evolutionary biologist. A lot of evolutionary biologists don't give two ****s about religion, just like to study science... unlike Dawkins.

It doesn't really make him a bad scientist though.

Agreed. As previously mentioned, by his position as a professor, he's certainly at least a competent scientist. Also agreed most evolutionary biologists care less about religion than Dawkins, but I suspect most evolutionary biologists aren't making millions off selling anti-religion/anti-spiritual books and lecture circuits.
 

Tristesse

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Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
I DID NOT say they "changed" the title. I said it was their prerogative to use whatever title they saw fit to use.
If they didn't change the title, then what are you saying? I know you are desperately trying to prop up the sanctity of Dawkins, but do you or don't you hold Dawkins accountable for what he writes and/or posts on his own website?
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Also agreed most evolutionary biologists care less about religion than Dawkins, but I suspect most evolutionary biologists aren't making millions off selling anti-religion/anti-spiritual books and lecture circuits.

Should he be precluded from making money from his books?
 

Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
But just doing science and being an educator wouldn't give you super-stardom. Dawkins wants to be a superstar. Unfortunately some people have made him one.

Agreed 100%. Dawkins, like Limbaugh, Myers, Robertson, Phelps and other notorious personalities, does love the limelight. Many of his lectures/speeches, especially his later ones, are often laced with provocative soundbites. He must love the attention because if he didn't, he wouldn't be so happy to seek it.
 

Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
Should he be precluded from making money from his books?

Of course not, but also let's not raise him to sainthood because he's "doing it for science".

Do you think Phelps, Limbaugh, Santorum, Palin and the like should be precluded from making money off their actions?
 

CynthiaCypher

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Agreed 100%. Dawkins, like Limbaugh, Myers, Robertson, Phelps and other notorious personalities, does love the limelight. Many of his lectures/speeches, especially his later ones, are often laced with provocative soundbites. He must love the attention because if he didn't, he wouldn't be so happy to seek it.

Exactly, he is like an atheist version of Ann Coulter except she atleast has a set of huevos on her.
 
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