Is Richard Dawkin's view that the human eye was designed by an idiot really science ?

[Shadow Wolf]

I believe it was necessary for Jehovah to take the actions he has taken, in order to undo the harm Satan and Adam caused by their rebellion.

By damning people before they were even born? By allowing them to "inherit" a "sinful nature?" Why not just nip the problem in the bud and do away with sin altogether if he can truly do anything he wants? Why make us pay for something we had nothing to do with?

 

[rusra02]

By damning people before they were even born? By allowing them to "inherit" a "sinful nature?" Why not just nip the problem in the bud and do away with sin altogether if he can truly do anything he wants? Why make us pay for something we had nothing to do with?

I suggest you reread the entire post carefully.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

If by "idiot" you mean the stochastic process comprising randomly generated mutations
in organisms selected by a fitness function (natural selection) resulting in evolution over eons,
then yes, this is science.

Gosh, that was easy!

Until we can observe, measure, repeat that experiment; a human eye assembling itself, by attaining significant design improvements from entirely random mutations..
it's more a matter of philosophical speculation than science is it not?

 

[viole]

Until we can observe, measure, repeat that experiment; a human eye assembling itself, by attaining significant design improvements from entirely random mutations..
it's more a matter of philosophical speculation than science is it not?

Can you repeat the Big Bang?

Ciao

- viole

 

[jeager106]

I don't know of any single human eye that matches all of the capabilities of a 100$ worth digital camera, either.

And that is probably the main reason why we spend those $100 dollars to buy it.

Ciao

- viole

One reason we buy those cameras.
The human eye can't take a picture either.

 

[jeager106]

Can you repeat the Big Bang?

Ciao

- viole

O.K.
BIG BANG.
There, ya happy now?

 

[viole]

O.K.
BIG BANG.
There, ya happy now?

What was before the Big Bang?

Ciao

- viole

 

[jeager106]

@viole
If your avatar is a photo of you then I must say that you are
gorgeous.

 

[viole]

@viole
If your avatar is a photo of you then I must say that you are
gorgeous.

It is not. But my husband things she is the spitting image of me. So, thanks.

I assume your avatar is not a picture of you. Therefore, I cannot reciprocate.

Ciao

- viole

 

[jeager106]

What was before the Big Bang?

Ciao

- viole

No one knows.
But go here if ya like.

http://www.universetoday.com/116835/what-came-before-the-big-bang/

Presumably prior to the Big Bust the universe was smaller than a pin head.
Frankly my finite mind can't wrap around that.

 

[viole]

No one knows.
But go here if ya like.

http://www.universetoday.com/116835/what-came-before-the-big-bang/

Presumably prior to the Big Bust the universe was smaller than a pin head.
Frankly my finite mind can't wrap around that.

What about the Big Foreplay? Lol.

Ciao

- viole

 

[jeager106]

It is not. But my husband things she is the spitting image of me. So, thanks.

I assume your avatar is not a picture of you. Therefore, I cannot reciprocate.

Ciao

- viole

Funny! Good one. No, I love cats especially the big cats.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I suggest you reread the entire post carefully.

Nothing needs reread. What was necessary about punishing those who wouldn't even be conceived for thousands of years over the actions of one man?

 

[Zosimus]

What causes what is only significant if we accept the idea that an all powerful master didn't "create" each organ. Otherwise the more things that can go wrong with the organ indicate intentional flaws that God built in. Why create eyes that don't work unless they get enough sunlight? Why not create a perfect eye without so many flaws?

This is bad logic. It's like saying that a car is flawed if it is built to run on gasoline. I suppose if it doesn't accept gasoline, that's also a flaw. What's next? If the eye can't pick up a paperclip then it's flawed?

 

[Demonslayer]

I assume your avatar is not a picture of you. Therefore, I cannot reciprocate.

That's me in my avatar, my parents couldn't afford braces. Or horn removal surgery.

 

[Zosimus]

I know of no single camera that can match all the capabilities of the human eye. Do you?

I would agree. I can think of no human-designed camera that grows itself, runs on glucose, self-repairs, and automatically closes if something threatening moves in its direction.

 

[Kent856]

I read three pages and then gave up so I won't get deep on the subject but...

Come on peeps... Really? Maybe we should have wings too huh? How come we can't fly but birds can how come we cant breath fire, that would be super useful! Oh i know! If I was God I would've made it so humans could use photosynthesis for a nice energy boost.
Why is it that we can't breath underwater either...
Thats a serious design flaw :/

OK you get the picture

 

[viole]

That's me in my avatar, my parents couldn't afford braces. Or horn removal surgery.

You are gorgeous.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Demonslayer]

This is bad logic. It's like saying that a car is flawed if it is built to run on gasoline. I suppose if it doesn't accept gasoline, that's also a flaw. What's next? If the eye can't pick up a paperclip then it's flawed?

Didn't you make this same exact statement yesterday? It didn't make any sense then either.

If I was God making a car, why would I make it reliant on a non-renewable fuel source? I'd make it run on air or solar. You think if the most powerful being in the universe made a power source for a vehicle, it would be the internal combustion engine? Cars that run on gas are absolutely flawed, compared to better designs that we are already coming up with. If we had a car that ran just as fast, with as much power and reliability as a gas engine, only it ran on sunlight and could function even on a cloudy day because we found a way to store tons of solar energy, wouldn't that be 100 times better? No pollution, no fuel cost, no stopping to refuel? If I had unlimited power I'd never design a gasoline powered engine.

You have to remember the concept here...we're talking about what GOD would design, or supposedly has designed. GOD, who supposedly can do anything he wants. People claim the human eye is so incredibly awesome, a super powerful being must have designed it somehow. But it's not that great, the human eye. The eye's purpose is to see, not pick up paperclips, and in 40% of cases, it doesn't see properly from a very young age. It also has a blind spot. It also wears out after 40 years or so, causing most people to need reading glasses.

Think about that for a second...almost every single person who lives into their 40's needs a human invention to make up for the fact that God's crappy eye can't see something that is right in front of our faces! We had to make up for God's poor design! He's ALL POWERFUL...he couldn't make an eye that lasts 80 years without going all blurry?

Fingers are for picking up paperclips. If God designed fingers that dropped paperclips 40% of the time, I'd say fingers were flawed too.

 

[Demonslayer]

You are gorgeous.

Ciao

- viole

Thanks. I'm a little self conscious about my weird feet, but I have a nicely shaped head and nice eyes.