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Is satan bad and mad?

The Holy Bottom Burp

Active Member
I would recommend you check out, in addition to my last recommendation, the MSS of that group that SHALL NOT BE NAMED on RF. I literally can't even say the name here because it would be (that thing we are not allowed to talk about) straight out of existence as soon as a (person doing a volunteer activity that we aren't allowed to mention either) sees it. :)
Thanks pal, will check it out. I recently listened to Seth Andrews interview Lucien Greaves on the Thinking Atheist podcast, damn interesting and informative.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
I would recommend you check out, in addition to my last recommendation, the MSS of that group that SHALL NOT BE NAMED on RF. I literally can't even say the name here because it would be (that thing we are not allowed to talk about) straight out of existence as soon as a (person doing a volunteer activity that we aren't allowed to mention either) sees it. :)

Oh no say it isn't so not that!Horrors!Wow your Satan sure is getting alof of attention all the Christian haters!Bless those Christians. ROTFLMAO LOLOLOLOLOL
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Who will judge this higher authority of yours? The satan is condemned by Jesus Christ. The satan is figure from Bible, in the Bible he is defeated and is burning (together with all satanists) in the lake of fire. So, there is no sense in satanism.
I'm afraid you have it all wrong. Jesus never existed, he was a mythical conglomerate of prior dying and resurrecting deities. That Abrahamic faiths are simply delusions of man used for political and social leverage. It is a lie intended to ensnare the herd mentality into subservience.

This archetype called Satan is the reflection of how we perceive ourselves in relation to what we call the “others”. Satan is a social and cultural phenomenon as old as the mind of humanity itself. There has always and will always, be essentially two worldviews consisting of oppositions and they are “Us & Them” or “Me” and “the rest of you” . . . etc.

Sumerian and Akkadian tablets concur this worldview from the earliest known writings, the ancient Egyptian word for an Egyptian meant “human”, which excluded all who were not Egyptian to be relegated to ‘non-human’, the Greek word for non-Greeks was “barbaroi” (barbarians). The Jewish Essenes called anyone not an Essene “ha satan” (the adversary), Zoroastrianism set forth the dualistic “good” (what we believe in) and “evil” (what they believe in).

“A society does not simply discover its others, it fabricates them, by selecting, isolating, and emphasizing as aspect of another people’s life, and making it symbolize their difference” – William Scott Green (Professor of the history of religion – ancient Judaism, biblical studies, and the theory of religion).

So, who/what is this Satan? He simply is who you are not!
 

Liu

Well-Known Member
Thanks pal, will check it out. I recently listened to Seth Andrews interview Lucien Greaves on the Thinking Atheist podcast, damn interesting and informative.
For your info, Lucien Grieves is pretty much the opposite kind of Satanist to what we were referring to, at least in regards to morals xD
Great, then you'll get to see two extremes directly after another - the best way of getting a feeling for what different people consider Satanism to be.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
No, the God Father is Love and Verity. He told the Adam not to sin and what a sinner will die. Then came the mentally sick Lucifer and told, what God is liar, and a sinner will not die. Guess what? We are rotting!
Where did you find that piece of nonsensical misinformation?
 

The Holy Bottom Burp

Active Member
For your info, Lucien Grieves is pretty much the opposite kind of Satanist to what we were referring to, at least in regards to morals xD
Great, then you'll get to see two extremes directly after another - the best way of getting a feeling for what different people consider Satanism to be.
:DSure, I suspected Grieves might be the yin to your yang!
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Feel free to educate us Edge, are you saying there are Satanists who are malevolent and wish to do people harm in the name of Satan? Every religion has its extremists, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. People should be free to believe whatever they want, it only becomes a problem when they seek to harm other people because of those beliefs, then they become my enemy.
There's neo-Nazi Satanists and anti-cosmic Satanists. There's some groups that promote human sacrifice, general murder, genocide, eugenics, etc.
 

The Holy Bottom Burp

Active Member
There's neo-Nazi Satanists and anti-cosmic Satanists. There's some groups that promote human sacrifice, general murder, genocide, eugenics, etc.
Your post caused me to go and do a Google search, I found the Wiki for the Order of Nine Angles, as I've said mate I'm a secular humanist, I think you can probably guess my opinion of such groups. It still comes under the category of religion for me, Christianity and Islam are knee deep in the blood of innocents, groups like ONA don't even scratch the surface. Just more (in)glorious religion.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Your post caused me to go and do a Google search, I found the Wiki for the Order of Nine Angles, as I've said mate I'm a secular humanist, I think you can probably guess my opinion of such groups. It still comes under the category of religion for me, Christianity and Islam are knee deep in the blood of innocents, groups like ONA don't even scratch the surface. Just more (in)glorious religion.
*Gasps, you're gonna get in trouble!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No, the God Father is Love and Verity. He told the Adam not to sin and what a sinner will die. Then came the mentally sick Lucifer and told, what God is liar, and a sinner will not die. Guess what? We are rotting!
Satan isn't the one who cause them to die, nor did he make it so they would die. God is the one who made that so. As well, god himself delivered death multiple times throughout the OT. Where we find examples of Satan causing death, such as in Job, it was with permission and encouragement from God.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Satan isn't the one who cause them to die, nor did he make it so they would die. God is the one who made that so. As well, god himself delivered death multiple times throughout the OT. Where we find examples of Satan causing death, such as in Job, it was with permission and encouragement from God.
There is no sense to live in sin. We are designed to love the God Jesus Christ.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
How about you open up with your sources?
Have you not read of the final plague against Egypt? God and his prophets instructing the Jewish armies to invade, annihilate, rape, loot, pillage and plunder? Not even the livestock were safe. From there Genesis throughout to Revelations, there is so much blood and violence at the behest of god and those who represent him, it's easily understood why so many Christians have not read the Bible and why so many call it quits after reading it. I'll provide chapter:verse, but speaking truthfully it is all in the Bible. You just have to read it.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
What? Do the satanists reject the Verity of Bible? No, because the satan is in Bible!
Of course they do, the majority of Satanists reject the Christian Bible as nonsense, they accept Satan as an archetypal force.

Satan is a personification of the Judaic word ha-satan meaning Adversary. Ha satan did not become Satan until much later when Jewish sects / tribes particularly the Essenes began referring to anyone who was not an Essene as ha satan. Still further on, the Roman Christian Church decided it was time to personify "the adversary" into Satan (complete with Pagan Pan horns and tail, colored Egyptian Set red, and all that jazz) and have him become the scapegoat for all evil in the Christian world.

The Adversary is a trans-cultural archetype which existed long before Christianity began in the form of Set, Samael, Ahriman, Loki, Pan and the feminine aspect being Lilith, to name but a few. Psychologically speaking, the Adversary is our Shadow Self, that which opposes and challenges you, when confronted by it, one either becomes consumed by it or one becomes stronger because of it
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
He is evil and strives to make everyone as miserable as himself.
I was beyond miserable following Christ. Lucifer set me free. Now I have no fears, no shame, no sin. Those were burdens placed upon me by the Nazarene, and Lucifer helped my realize that so that I may take them off. He gave me the keys, and I set myself free.
There is no sense to live in sin.
I don't live in sin. I just live.
We are designed to love the God Jesus Christ.
We are? According to what and/or whom? By what evidence? And why was the love expressed and given so one sided when I did love that god, and why was it so emotionally abusive and destructive? If we are designed for such, why has my life improved tremendously since i renounced and forsook the Trinity?
 
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