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Is Sex Incompatible With Spirituality?

Darkwater

Well-Known Member
Sex is a lovely way to go astral,female being vessel.

For male this starts off with the bright lights you see through tightly closed eyes when you are punched really hard on the nose,without the pain & watery eyes,& you are not holding your own face real tight either.

:)
 

Masourga

Member
Considering that without sex there would be no human race (discounting any "test-tube" type human generation here, as it is obviously NOT the natural, intended way for humans to procreate), I would say it is pretty distinctly tied to what we are as a species. Spirituality included.

Look at it this way: would God (of any religion) wish there to be no human propagation? Obviously not. So, if it were truly wrong in the eyes of God, then why would He/She/It make it the sole method of procreating naturally? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to say that God doesn't support sex.

On the other hand, as a species we are able to justify the satisfaction of our urges using sex, without the intent to procreate. I, personally, do not see this as wrong. It is merely something we are able to do, that is, in ways, mutually beneficial and hurts no one (assuming the parties involved are willing participants). But there is something, too, to be said about responsibility. As the practice is linked to procreation, the main issue is that too many people set out NOT wanting their sexual actions to lead to procreation, but it nevertheless does for those who aren't responsible with it. Having a child you do not intend to love and take care of is, in my opinion, wrong. And it is the sort of stigma caused by events peripheral to sex that I believe leads people to associate sex with "wrong".

But sex itself is certainly not to blame.
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
It's my duty to throw in the random line. :p

Just as it's my duty to call you out on a pick up line and play impossible to get, and riverwolf's duty to act like he's a jealous overprotective macho man even though he really isn't any of those things. lol:p:D;)
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
To the OP, I would say certain attitudes toward sex are incompatible with sexuality. If one believes (and has internalized the belief) that sex is dirty and sinful, then it becomes detrimental to a spiritual life.

However, this is not necessary. I believe that sex is inherently sacred, and for me it becomes a most profound form of worship. For me, it enhances my spiritual practice.

Like so many things, it all depends on what you bring to the table.
 

Comicaze247

See the previous line
To the OP, I would say certain attitudes toward sex are incompatible with sexuality. If one believes (and has internalized the belief) that sex is dirty and sinful, then it becomes detrimental to a spiritual life.

However, this is not necessary. I believe that sex is inherently sacred, and for me it becomes a most profound form of worship. For me, it enhances my spiritual practice.

Like so many things, it all depends on what you bring to the table.
I couldn't have said it better myself :) (read earlier posts, I tried :p)
 

frg001

Complex bunch of atoms
Sex is purely a biological function in order to continue the species. Nothing more nothing less.

We all have the imperative to procreate, and sexual urges are simply the result of our second most important imperitive, or instinct, after staying alive.

I believe religious types think far too much about this. It is normal, and completely okay to have as much sex with as many people as you like, in as many ways as you like...so long as nobody gets hurt. ie do it with a mind to the mental effects on those around you. If you wish to be monogonous, then great. If you wish to get into one night stands, or threesomes or swing...great...so long as all parties are aware and accepting of this.

Spirituality for me personally is nothing to do with the paranormal. I have no soul, I have no belief in anything outside what is scientifically accepted, or theorised. Yet I too can feell spiritual..ie a oneness with the world around me. I meditate often, and sometimes whilst doing so feel "connected" in a way I can only descibe as "spiritually". Whether or not I have sex is as irrelevant as whether or not I have a bank account. I am monogomous because I have a family, but I have no problem using pornography from time to time too!
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Sunstone, I think this thread calls for a repost of what I posted to a similar thread you posted


The Song of Songs is perhaps the most important Biblical text to the Kabbalah. Following the writing and dissemination of the Book of the Zohar in the 14th and 15th centuries, Jewish mysticism took on a strongly erotic element, and the Song of Songs came to be regarded almost as a type of sacred pornography. In Zoharic Kabbalah, God is represented by a system of ten sephirot, or spheres, each symbolizing a different aspect of God, who is perceived as both male and female. The Shechina, or indwelling of God on earth, was identified with the sephira Malchut, which is female in essence, and symbolizes both the Jewish people and the female sexual organs. Malchut was, in turn, identified with the woman in the Song of Songs. Her beloved was identified with the sephira Yesod, which represents God's foundation and the phallus or male essence. The text thus became a description of an act of divine eroticism, symbolizing--depending on the interpreter--the creation of the world, the passage of the Sabbath, the covenant with Israel, or the coming of the Messianic age. "Lecha Dodi" a 16th century liturgical song with strong Kabbalistic and messianic symbolism, contains many passages, including its opening words, taken directly from the Song of Songs.


Song of Songs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer
and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female
into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes
in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an
image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."


~The Gospel of Thomas
 

Darkwater

Well-Known Member
Sunstone, I think this thread calls for a repost of what I posted to a similar thread you posted


The Song of Songs is perhaps the most important Biblical text to the Kabbalah. Following the writing and dissemination of the Book of the Zohar in the 14th and 15th centuries, Jewish mysticism took on a strongly erotic element, and the Song of Songs came to be regarded almost as a type of sacred pornography. In Zoharic Kabbalah, God is represented by a system of ten sephirot, or spheres, each symbolizing a different aspect of God, who is perceived as both male and female. The Shechina, or indwelling of God on earth, was identified with the sephira Malchut, which is female in essence, and symbolizes both the Jewish people and the female sexual organs. Malchut was, in turn, identified with the woman in the Song of Songs. Her beloved was identified with the sephira Yesod, which represents God's foundation and the phallus or male essence. The text thus became a description of an act of divine eroticism, symbolizing--depending on the interpreter--the creation of the world, the passage of the Sabbath, the covenant with Israel, or the coming of the Messianic age. "Lecha Dodi" a 16th century liturgical song with strong Kabbalistic and messianic symbolism, contains many passages, including its opening words, taken directly from the Song of Songs.


Song of Songs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer
and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female
into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes
in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an
image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

~The Gospel of Thomas

Gosh,be careful for all you wish for,for it shall come true.

Know thyself.
 
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