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Is Spanking Children immoral to you?

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Spank your kids when you want them to grow up to be followers.

Don't spank your kids when you want them to grow up to be leaders.
 

NocLue

Member
For the most part - spanking is not a way to get children to understand what they did wrong.
It is a way to let them understand you are upset or angry and you want them to share in those feelings!!!


I Agree. I am against it by principle. Unless we're talking about deadly dangers. But even then if you can somehow avoid it. Try to avoid it.
 

NocLue

Member
I think Vi said it well. Why on earth would you do to kids what you would get thrown in jail for doing to adults? Some parents spank with belts, wooden spoons, switches from trees, fly swatters and anything else they can get their hands on. If you do that to an adult, you would go to jail.

I Agree. But they do it in good faith. After all most pastors advocate it. When I hear them, I want to throw up. On the other hand. We have matters of life and death. In this case, it should be acceptable. Not encouraged. But acceptable. However, if one can somehow avoid it, even in these cases. It'd be better if they find a way to manage the situation differently.
 

NocLue

Member
He said can.

"spanking your kids can result in their adopting behaviors that will handicap them later on in life"

Which means it doesn't necessarily happen every time. Personally i don't think its a disaster, but i do think it can cause problems in some cases (i have no sources to back my opinion up though, its just my personal observation).

I Was affected to a big degree by it. Long story and I don't have enough time right now. However, I don't assume it will affect every kid negatively. It definitely CAN. But it doesn't mean it will.

But why do people who were not affected by it, assume, no kid will be affected by it?
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Well to add to this old discussion I will say that my step-mother dealt with many kids because of foster parenting and she is an old southern lady so old southern parenting comes in.
Corporal punishment is effective and not damaging like claimed to be because the statistics given a throwing in child abuse and not corporal punishment.
Some kids have mental issues where this becomes ineffective and some kids are easy to intimidate to the point just yelling at them results in immediate attention. Some kids on the other hand just require a tree limb and a swift arm.
I would not say corporal discipline is something desired but usually this is only effective on males. Something about female children makes them easy to parent. Never understood it but I have babysat and had to deal with 2 foot tall hungry buggers all of my life.
I know many of you will give idiotic statistics but I have dealt with or been around well over 30 kids and my own mother more then 90-110 so that speaks volumes.
Unless a child is not an F-rate (mental or health) issues corporal punishment is highly effective if it is not done out of anger obviously. It must be implement like any other rule or law, break it and prepare to loose the privilege to sit for a few hours. Children are not stupid like modern parents want them to be
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
In my experience spanking and corporal punishment just are not effective. Not only that, it's cruel and would be assault if it were adult to adult.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
In my experience spanking and corporal punishment just are not effective. Not only that, it's cruel and would be assault if it were adult to adult.

But they are not adults and adults should know better then to act like fools so we give them a new corporal punishment........ numerous years in prison
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Prison is primarily to protect the rest of society, not punitive. How does hitting a kid protect society? Here's a nice map... Children's World Map | SRSG on Violence Against Children

The issue is that corporal punishment is not abuse. Any statistic you give me is going to include 70% of reported child abuse at a minimum.
Also prison in the US is created for the purpose of "rehabilitating" criminals. If a guy smokes marijuana please tell me who the government is protecting us from.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
The issue is that corporal punishment is not abuse. Any statistic you give me is going to include 70% of reported child abuse at a minimum.
Also prison in the US is created for the purpose of "rehabilitating" criminals. If a guy smokes marijuana please tell me who the government is protecting us from.

I think the marijuana laws are ridiculous too. I'm saying the intent of prisons should be rehab, and society protection, not a punitive place.

Corporal punishment is abuse in many countries of the world, and that list is growing. But it's difficult. The method of training horses is changing too. We just have to learn new strategies. There are lots of books on Positive Parenting. One good author is Dr. Jane Nelson. http://www.amazon.ca/Positive-Discipline-Jane-Nelsen-Ed-D/dp/0345487672
 

Pagan_Patriot

Active Member
I don't think it's immoral. I just see it as a gateway thing for them to be abusive when they're older. I could be wrong. I was never spanked lol.
 

NocLue

Member
I don't think it's immoral. I just see it as a gateway thing for them to be abusive when they're older. I could be wrong. I was never spanked lol.
I was spanked, and I am not violent. There are many issues a spanked person can suffer from. Not just violence.
I am glad you weren't spanked though.
 
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