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Is the evolutionary doctrine a racist doctrine?

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Here, I don't think you are being honest.
I think you very well understand what he means.
Hopefully not another year older and deeper in debt.

Re honesty and in light of recent posts, not understanding the generally accepted meaning of literal, she may be honest in this case.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
We used to be quadrupeds, we are only part way to being efficient at upright walking which is the source of most all back and hip problems, talk to any orthopedist or any doctor who deals with adults.
You could also speak to my father-in-law about this. He needs a full hip replacement and cannot currently stand upright.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
We used to be quadrupeds, we are only part way to being efficient at upright walking which is the source of most all back and hip problems, talk to any orthopedist or any doctor who deals with adults.
Here is bad news from the world of evolution. Those sort of defects are not apt to improve very much. The vast majority of the time those flaws do not become apparent until after the age of when our children are adults. So bad things happening to us at advanced ages are not likely to affect our ability to reproduce and raise offspring. They are evolutionary neutral so our species may be stuck with them. Pressures on evolution tend to end when one's parenting duties are over.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
You could also speak to my father-in-law about this. He needs a full hip replacement and cannot currently stand upright.
Don't need to, when I couldn't get out of bed without falling out to call 911, took 6 Ibuprofen and eventually made it to my phone, Best part is I learned why I have had hip/leg pain for 20 years and it wasn't the the surgeon who treated my vascular pain problems but again the Nurse Practicioner that actually listened and thought. Never knew what sciatica was till then. Anyhow,Google and a good nurse practitioner has has proven to better for me than several specialists.


That said, I only have the health care that I have never had before because I am currently eligible for totally government subsidized care.
What could have been avoided if I had this level of care before?:

Oh, and a lot of it is because I live in a liberal state.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
Evolutionists lost objectivity and common sense a long time ago. It is absolutely unrealistic that an entire population of apes suddenly evolved into humans.

That's just a desperate and crazy attempt to avoid the problem of the mandatory birth of two contemporary humans who necessarily have to meet each other in a world where apes are supposedly the evolutionary pinnacle, have offspring and then those offspring repeat the process. .. and so on until a first community formed exclusively of the new human species was formed. Only under those circumstances could human civilization have arisen out of the apes.

But since the probability of that happening in reality is practically zero, they invented the idea of entire populations evolving at the same time. In fact, macroevolution conceived as the set of many small mutations that occured little by little is contradictory to the supposed evolution of entire populations.
 
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McBell

Unbound
Evolutionists lost objectivity and common sense a long time ago. It is absolutely unrealistic that an entire population of apes suddenly evolved into humans.

That's just a desperate and crazy attempt to avoid the problem of the mandatory birth of two contemporary humans who necessarily have to meet each other in a world where apes are supposedly the evolutionary pinnacle, have offspring and then those offspring repeat the process. .. and so on until a first community formed exclusively of the new human species was formed. Only under those circumstances could human civilization have arisen out of the apes.

But since the probability of that happening in reality is practically zero, they invented the idea of entire populations evolving at the same time. In fact, macroevolution conceived as the set of many small mutations that occured little by little is contradictory to the supposed evolution of entire populations.
So basically, it is your claim that evolution is nothing more than a huge conspiracy against your favorite deity?
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
The animal species that we know are complete in themselves.

There are no small leaps of a fish gradually becoming a reptile ... or BTW any species becoming the next one. There would have to exist right now many specimens showing a lot of small steps partially distinguishable in the new descendants of the known species, before any complete next species appear as they will be by their own.

So according to the real facts of that lack of modern hibrids, the only thing that would have to happen is that some old species gives birth to a new one directly... since small steps are not attested in real life. That event is even more unlikely; One species has never been seen giving birth to a different one.

The logical conclusion is: there is no such thing as common ancestor, much less can a species X father a child of the species X+1 (in the supposed evolutionary chain of species). ;)
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The animal species that we know are complete in themselves.

There are no small leaps of a fish gradually becoming a reptile ... or BTW any species becoming the next one. There would have to exist right now many specimens showing a lot of small steps partially distinguishable in the new descendants of the known species, before any complete next species appear as they will be by their own.

So according to the real facts of that lack of modern hibrids, the only thing that would have to happen is that some old species gives birth to a new one directly... since small steps are not attested in real life. That event is even more unlikely; One species has never been seen giving birth to a different one.

The logical conclusion is: there is no such thing as common ancestor, much less can a species X father a child of the species X+1 (in the supposed evolutionary chain of species). ;)

FYI. Every fossil that exists, every animals that exists is transitional.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
Actual animal species are transitional only in the imagination of evolutionist ... not in real life.

Varieties may extend perhaps indefinitely, but animal genera are finite.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Actual animal species are transitional only in the imagination of evolutionist ... not in real life.

Varieties may extend perhaps indefinitely, but animal genera are finite.

Typical nonsense spoken by people who are deliberately ignorant of what evolution even means. You called me a liar on another thread early today, how do you cope with the hypocrisy?
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
Evolutionists lost objectivity and common sense a long time ago. It is absolutely unrealistic that an entire population of apes suddenly evolved into humans.

That's just a desperate and crazy attempt to avoid the problem of the mandatory birth of two contemporary humans who necessarily have to meet each other in a world where apes are supposedly the evolutionary pinnacle, have offspring and then those offspring repeat the process. .. and so on until a first community formed exclusively of the new human species was formed. Only under those circumstances could human civilization have arisen out of the apes.

But since the probability of that happening in reality is practically zero, they invented the idea of entire populations evolving at the same time. In fact, macroevolution conceived as the set of many small mutations that occured little by little is contradictory to the supposed evolution of entire populations.
Does any real expert on the doctrine of evolution of the species think of explaining with evidence how it is possible for an entire population of apes to become an entire population of humans in a few generations, if for just one to appear a drastic change of 24 pairs of chromosomes to 23 is needed? :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Does any real expert on the doctrine of evolution of the species think of explaining with evidence how it is possible for an entire population of apes to become an entire population of humans in a few generations, if for just one to appear a drastic change of 24 pairs of chromosomes to 23 is needed? :)
Since there is no "doctrine" that would be impossible And your question is poorly formed. People still are apes. You are still an ape.

Would you care to try to ask your question again? When you think that there are "changes of kind" in evolution you clearly do not understand it at all.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
APES: 24 pairs of chromosomes

HUMAN: 23 pairs of chromosomes

Only one chromosome has hundreds or thousands of genes, which have the instructions for making proteins. Each of the estimated 30,000 genes in the human genome produces an average of three proteins.

BTW: There are not transitional quantities of chromosomes. There is not species with 23.7 or 23.5 pairs of chromosomes. :cool:
 
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