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Is the following relationship of Science, Mathematics, Philosophy and Religion true?

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Interesting observation. Dont think there is a debate. They are all true just you put it more poetically than I would find in math, history, or philosophy book even.
Sometimes or many a times poetry does wonders! Right? Please
Regards
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
Science and math are both products of the truth section, and, depending on your definition, science comes first.
Philosophy and religion are products of the speculation section, though philosophy certainly came first.

I should clarify that in the my previous post (above) I was talking about the functions of the terms, not when the terms were created.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Science is the child of Mathematics.
Mathematics is the child of Philosophy.
Philosophy is the child of Religion.

And one's arguments, evidences and sources are welcome here.
Regards
No I highly doubt that religion is the grandfather of knowledge and insight.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is the following relationship of Science, Mathematics, Philosophy and Religion true?

When philosophy, its part, took to use mathematics to solve certain problems, that sowed the seed of scientific method and science as a tool. Please

Regards
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Is the following relationship of Science, Mathematics, Philosophy and Religion true?

When philosophy, its part, took to use mathematics to solve certain problems, that sowed the seed of scientific method and science as a tool. Please

Regards

When has philosophy or any of the soft sciences ever used mathematics.
 

Ana.J

Active Member
Science is the child of Mathematics.
Mathematics is the child of Philosophy.
Philosophy is the child of Religion.

And one's arguments, evidences and sources are welcome here.
Regards

I think they are all are united and one derived from another. It is hard to trace the roots now.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Is the following relationship of Science, Mathematics, Philosophy and Religion true?

When philosophy, its part, took to use mathematics to solve certain problems, that sowed the seed of scientific method and science as a tool. Please

Regards

Thales of Miletus, who was the first recorded philosopher, is credited with having fathered philosophy and sown the first seeds of the scientific methods by positing that natural events could be explained in terms of natural causes that were discernible to human reason. Before Thales, even well educated people explained natural events as "the work of the gods" or some other supernatural cause. After Thales, it becomes increasingly common for well educated people to look for natural, rather than supernatural, explanations for natural events.
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Pythagoras would be one of several plausible examples.

When has science ever not used philosophy?

Philosophy: The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.

The issue is the use of mathematics. When has math ever been used to reveal the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality or existence?
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
Philosophy: The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.

The issue is the use of mathematics. When has math ever been used to reveal the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality or existence?

Glad I answered the other question: When has philosophy ... ever used mathematics.

You now are wanting to know when has math ever been used to reveal philosophy?

So I asked rhetorically when has science ever not used philosophy. Seeing there was no dispute on that, if the issue is mathematics, then another follow up / reasonable question is: when has math ever been used to reveal scientific knowledge?

I would think plausibly never, as one could suggest it is only mathematical knowledge.
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
So I asked rhetorically when has science ever not used philosophy.

Aye, there's the rub. When has philosophy ever been considered to be a science? The simple answer is, not since astrology was.

Seeing there was no dispute on that, if the issue is mathematics, then another follow up / reasonable question is: when has math ever been used to reveal scientific knowledge?

I would think plausibly never, as one could suggest it is only mathematical knowledge.

OhhhhhKayyyyy, nice chatting with you.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
Aye, there's the rub. When has philosophy ever been considered to be a science? The simple answer is, not since astrology was.

Natural philosophy is how modern science (last 400) years came about. Not sure how astrology figures in.
I'm saying there's literally nothing about science that doesn't entail philosophy. It's always interesting to consider anything that people think to be science but not philosophy.
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Natural philosophy is how modern science (last 400) years came about. Not sure how astrology figures in.
I'm saying there's literally nothing about science that doesn't entail philosophy. It's always interesting to consider anything that people think to be science but not philosophy.

S'why they came up with a new word for philosophy (science), because all those pseudo-sciences (astrology, alchemy, theology, parapsychology etc.) were irrational compared to what was finally segregated as rational science.
 
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