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Is The Harvey Weinstein Debacle Leading To A New Prudery?

Akivah

Well-Known Member
Being investigated, with the possibility of charges being filed....
Kevin Spacey
Harvey Weinstein
And those are just the ones I remember.

How ever many, the acts brought to the police are far fewer than the accusations. It is scary that it just takes an accusation to destroy a person's life. Compounding that, as @Underhill said is that there is no bright line of what constitutes sexual harassment. It seems that just about anything can qualify. Maybe the Muslims are on to something by keeping the sexes completely separated.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Something in the news caught my eye....
Michael Douglas Gets Out Front Of Potential Harassment Story To Preemptively Deny Sordid Accusation
...because one of the accuser's complaints was his using "colorful language".
Dang!
Do you have her actual complaint, or just Douglas's characterization of the complaint?

It's a pretty common tactic for an accused person to portray their accuser's complaint as making a mountain out of a molehill. Why would you take Douglas at his word without hearing the other side?

And why did you leave out the part where Douglas says that this woman is accusing him of masturbating in front of her and blackballing her from working in Hollywood?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Why is this a problem?
A backlash against frivolous & vapid accusations might harm the credibility of people who've
endured real harassment & abuse on the job.
So a boss masturbating in front of their - apparently non-consenting - employee doesn't count as "real harassment?"

How many of your employees have you masturbated in front of?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Do you have her actual complaint, or just Douglas's characterization of the complaint?
Regarding the accusation of his "colorful language", I'm assuming both are accurate.
It's a pretty common tactic for an accused person to portray their accuser's complaint as making a mountain out of a molehill.
It's a pretty common tactic to presume the accused's guilt.
And why did you leave out the part where Douglas says that this woman is accusing him of masturbating in front of her and blackballing her from working in Hollywood?
You should read the thread to see which issues have already been addressed.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
This thread is not about defending Douglas against all charges.
Nor is it about defending something unacceptably lewd.
It's about even a minor social faux pas being blown out of proportion.
In what way has anything that Michael 6 said been blown out of proportion?

Do you think it's honest to portray an allegation of real sexual harrassment and real reprisals as a complaint about profanity just because - according to the accused - the complaint mentions lewd language?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In what way has anything that Michael 6 said been blown out of proportion?

Do you think it's honest to portray an allegation of real sexual harrassment and real reprisals as a complaint about profanity just because - according to the accused - the complaint mentions lewd language?
This thread is solely about the "colorful language".
Read the OP, & conversations about it so that I needn't repeat myself.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Was this supposed to be relevant?


None of your posts in the thread so far answer my question. Do you think that your OP gave a fair and reasonable impression of the situation?
It seems you're ignoring the discussion so far,
& plan only to bicker about a straw man.
I don't play that. I should hit you with a sock.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
This thread is solely about the "colorful language".
Read the OP, & conversations about it so that I needn't repeat myself.
Not much to go on if we don't know what 'language' was used? Which is why you should focus on the masturbation part. No language necessary.

Oh, wait. Do you think 'colorful' language means racist language? Is that what this is about?

What's the race of the accuser?
 
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