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Is the idea of Fate logical?

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I believe we create our own fate. That is logical, and it hasn't done that bad for me.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
In the sense of self-determination.
Which is commonly defined as something like,
"that given a situation, a person could have done other than what he did. Philosophers have argued that free will is incompatible with determinism."
source
So if this is how you regard self-determination then I'm sorry but your notion that free will is true is a faulty one.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Which is commonly defined as something like,
"that given a situation, a person could have done other than what he did. Philosophers have argued that free will is incompatible with determinism."
source
So if this is how you regard self-determination then I'm sorry but your notion that free will is true is a faulty one.
I prefer to define it as a person (a "self") determined what they did.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I prefer to define it as a person (a "self") determined what they did.
Doesn't the "will" of free will already imply a person, or some sentient being? I think you're close to creating a tautology here. Not that it would necessarily be bad, but it's essentially a meaningless endeavor.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Doesn't the "will" of free will already imply a person, or some sentient being? I think you're close to creating a tautology here. Not that it would necessarily be bad, but it's essentially a meaningless endeavor.
I was just copying the same wording you'd quoted.
 
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