I can see why Islam would hate Paul, because Paul condemns Islam directly to hell for preaching another gospel.
That's Paul's problem....... he thought he had the right to decide what Christianity would become. No wonder Cephas needed to get his account in to writing.
In my opinion Paul (and John) turned a beautiful movement in to a nightmare that would fragment in to hundreds of different churches, hundreds of wars, hell... in fact.
For the only mission that Islam conceives for Jesus is to prepare the way for Mahomet. Islam fundamentally has no interest in Christ beyond a "John the Baptist" type of role, but rather more interest in Mary his mother (cf. Our Lady at Fátima), who along with Fatimah bint Muhammad acts as a kind of female role model equivalent to Mahomet.
Of course..... as Abrahamic religions come so they each insist upon the tenet of progressive revelation through God's messengers........ the thread here is posted by a Bahai so you'll need to ask him about that. I'll give
@adrian009 a heads up on that. EDIT: Oops..... he didn't, it was
@firedragon 's. ..... but he might make mention about progressive revelation .....
Mary, who was quite estranged from and by Jesus (at Magdala) was urgently needed to be returned or reversed in to Christianity for a Roman following, to replace their important Godesses like Venus. And you moan about Islam needing her. Roman Christianity needed her!
We reliably know far more about the words of Jesus, because he had 12 disciples, than we do of the words of Mahomet, whose history was afterwards subject to so much spin, invention and fabrication in the Hadith that it became impossible to distinguish truth from falsehood, in respect of what he actually said. As for the Koran, we know for certain it contains foreign elements i.e. materials that did not come directly from Mahomet, and were even translated into Arabic for the purpose of insertion into the Koran.
Nope! The gospels are full of manipulations, additions, spin and waffle and the more a researcher reads through them, so the more editing is discovered. All the evidence that we have for Jesus and his mission is based upon the 'Balance of probability' rather than any Direct or Primary evidence. So it's no use chucking bricks at Islam about that.
The Old Testament makes it perfectly clear that the son of God / son of man would come, a son that Islam denies. Even the unbelieving Jews expected the "messiah" at the time of Christ. Islam has a real problem with the OT, which it claims to espouse. I can't make sense of how Islam can sincerely purport to adopt the OT, except for propaganda purposes.
That's you talking from a very biased position. Islam takes the OT history very seriously, builds it laws from the early books. It's no good to chuck muck at Islam...... Christianity has needed cleaning up ever since Paul and John left their writings.
You do realise that when John turned the story from 'anger about the priestshood' to 'anger about the Jews' that he caused two millenia of very wicked Antisemitism?
Not in the Koran, and not in the NT. All the Koran says is that Jesus was assumed into heaven, which is just an outright repudiation of the entire gospel account of the crucifixion and resurrection. just as the Koran denies almost every word Jesus is reported as saying in the gospel of John.
I have been very very lucky on this thread, because a challenging post caused me to look up an old work acquaintance for info, and he gave me the real foundation link from Islam to the bible to an historic Jesus. These things happen by chance, but I'm very pleased.
Why should I be obliged to give a Y/N answer? Anyone can ask trick questions such that either Y or N would be a false answer.
Y/N questions aren't tricks, only to those who dare not give a straight answer.
The plain fact is that Islam repudiates the gospel of John in toto. It preaches a different gospel, and tries to make Jesus the author of it. However Jesus is on record as repudiating Islam, when he said Jn 4:22 "Salvation is from the Jews." In his life Christ recognized no-one other than the Jews (the "lost sheep of Israel") as the rightful heirs and children of Abraham.
So do I! Brilliant! I never realised Islam was that keen!
John, pretending to have been the disciple, extending a 12 month mission to 3 years, not even knowing what Jesus did, when or where....
John did not know what Jesus and the disciples did in during the last week at the feast...... couldn't get a single day's events right. Well done Islam!