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Is the Quran only for Muslims?

outhouse

Atheistically
It seems to be the right religion for terrorist.


The rest of the world, really does not want all the fanaticism and fundamentalism required.


There is no room for literalism in history or science, meaning it fights education and knowledge, or the advancement of humanity.
 

Aamer

Truth Seeker
Incidentally, why are Sunni and Shi'ite muslims always killing each other?
Do they use different Korans or what?

Same Quran. Different Hadith.

From what I have seen, they are taught from a young age to hate each other. This gift of hate and intolerance was brought to you by the long bearded clerics on both sides. Btw, there is no concept if clergy in the Quran but let's not bring that up or the long beards will get angry. And you know what happens when the beards get angry. Heads start rolling... Literally. Intolerance is cultural!
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Same Quran. Different Hadith.

From what I have seen, they are taught from a young age to hate each other. This gift of hate and intolerance was brought to you by the long bearded clerics on both sides. Btw, there is no concept if clergy in the Quran but let's not bring that up or the long beards will get angry. And you know what happens when the beards get angry. Heads start rolling... Literally. Intolerance is cultural!

Yes it is a religion with violence.


Why is the question.

When people all hold fanaticism and fundamentalism so tightly and hold such extreme beliefs that are separated from reality, it is easier to go overboard
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Nope. Just different interpretations.

That said though, the spite between the two camps goes back all the way to Muhammad on his deathbed. It was originally about the rite of succession on who would lead the fledgling religion.

I believe it is like the two papacies, one French and the other Italien. It bois down to selfish desires instead of following GOd.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Any society that wants to apply Islam it must back 1400 years back
And remains constant at that time
Because the Qur'an is God full
To accept evolution
For example in Government it
Shari'ais applied
It does not recognize the rule of the people
Because the representative system of God
In personal
The Qur'an must be applied in every time and place
In Jihad
The law of fighting is one of the constants of the Qur'an
Therefore, the Qur'an is not valid
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Same Quran. Different Hadith.

From what I have seen, they are taught from a young age to hate each other. This gift of hate and intolerance was brought to you by the long bearded clerics on both sides. Btw, there is no concept if clergy in the Quran but let's not bring that up or the long beards will get angry. And you know what happens when the beards get angry. Heads start rolling... Literally. Intolerance is cultural!
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Gnostic Seeker

Spiritual
It at least contains messages for Christians and Jews, such as calling on them to at least agree with Muslims that they all worship one God. Probably more an astonishment to Christians to stop worshipping Jesus.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
It at least contains messages for Christians and Jews, such as calling on them to at least agree with Muslims that they all worship one God. Probably more an astonishment to Christians to stop worshipping Jesus.
The Jewsdo notneed amanlike Muhammadeventeach themthe absoluteMonotheism

Because a consolidation total written in Torah by Muhammad nearly 3000 years ago
And you say that Christians worship Jesus this slander and disinformation
Christiansworshipedone God
And they present them in his Jesus
The Trinity is not multiple but the oneness University absolute
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Any society that wants to apply Islam it must back 1400 years back
And remains constant at that time
Because the Qur'an is God full
To accept evolution
For example in Government it
Shari'ais applied
It does not recognize the rule of the people
Because the representative system of God
In personal
The Qur'an must be applied in every time and place
In Jihad
The law of fighting is one of the constants of the Qur'an
Therefore, the Qur'an is not valid

I believe that is where Christianity has an advantage because it is always relevant.

i beleive when people are sinful people's rule will be sinful. God's rule is best but Sharia might not achieve this.

I do not believe there is a law of fighting per se although there certainly is an allowance for self defense.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Same Quran. Different Hadith.

From what I have seen, they are taught from a young age to hate each other. This gift of hate and intolerance was brought to you by the long bearded clerics on both sides. Btw, there is no concept if clergy in the Quran but let's not bring that up or the long beards will get angry. And you know what happens when the beards get angry. Heads start rolling... Literally. Intolerance is cultural!

I believe the Shi'ites are not true Muslims. They agrssively attacked their neighbors. The Bible says this about them "They traded in Allah for the god of war" (a paraphrase).
 

theistboy

New Member
look forget how some Muslims behave, people are not perfect we will always make fault in our lives, Islam is perfect Muslims are not
and the fact that some people dont believe in Quran is not a new phenomenon, you have non-Muslims who are Quran scholars but they still dont believe it, knowledge are not the key to believe in Allah, but faith only. That is why it is very important that we ask and sincerely seek God's guidance (i will say not just one time but often ask God to guide us)
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Any society that wants to apply Islam it must back 1400 years back
And remains constant at that time
Because the Qur'an is God full
To accept evolution
For example in Government it
Shari'ais applied
It does not recognize the rule of the people
Because the representative system of God
In personal
The Qur'an must be applied in every time and place
In Jihad
The law of fighting is one of the constants of the Qur'an
Therefore, the Qur'an is not valid

I believe since Muslims don't have the Paraclete it is not easy for them to find guidance. I had a poster say that a Muslim had guidance from Allah that Jesus is not God in the flesh but my guidance from the Paraclete is that Jesus is God in the flesh. Perhaps the person generated his own guidance from his own mind but I know that I have a very close elationship with God.
 

seeking4truth

Active Member
Yes it is a religion with violence.


Why is the question.

When people all hold fanaticism and fundamentalism so tightly and hold such extreme beliefs that are separated from reality, it is easier to go overboard


The stage that some Muslims are going through today that causes so much distress to all compassionate people has already been gone through by Christians in the past; governmental support of one group against another; one sect against another; banning education; making preaching illegal; killing and destroying in the name of religion.

It has all been seen before in Christian societies throughout Europe.
The wiping out(almost) of groups different in culture and appearance was seen in Africa/North America/\Australia done by Euroipeans.
What justification did they use? What was the real motive?

The question is how to allow the persecutors today, wherever they are, to get passed this stage without doing the damage that was done by Europeans?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The Jewsdo notneed amanlike Muhammadeventeach themthe absoluteMonotheism

Because a consolidation total written in Torah by Muhammad nearly 3000 years ago
And you say that Christians worship Jesus this slander and disinformation
Christiansworshipedone God
And they present them in his Jesus
The Trinity is not multiple but the oneness University absolute

I don't have any particular problem with the idea of Trinitarianism, but saying that it is slander to claim that Christians worship Jesus is going a bit too far, isn't it?
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
The stage that some Muslims are going through today that causes so much distress to all compassionate people has already been gone through by Christians in the past; governmental support of one group against another; one sect against another; banning education; making preaching illegal; killing and destroying in the name of religion.

It has all been seen before in Christian societies throughout Europe.
The wiping out(almost) of groups different in culture and appearance was seen in Africa/North America/\Australia done by Euroipeans.
What justification did they use? What was the real motive?
Didn'tsaythe Europeans,they announced thattheir warsfor God
The Europeanssay theyare fighting fortheir interests
Past and present
NoEuropeansthat heis fighting forGod
The reason that the book in their hands and believe in it and even faith graphic
Nothing in the Bibleto supporttheir wars
There is no Gospel any legitimacy for the war offensive
Permission
Thissignificant difference
Between the European and Muslim
Muslim says it is fighting for God and that God is weak
Notbe able todo somethingtohelpinforcingpeople tobelieve
The question is how to allow the persecutors today, wherever they are, to get passed this stage without doing the damage that was done by Europeans?
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Didn't say the Europeans,they announced that their wars for God
The Europeans say they are fighting fortheir interests
Past and present
No Europeans that heis fighting for God
The reason that the book in their hands and believe in it and even faith graphic
Nothing in the Bibleto support their wars
There is no Gospel any legitimacy for the war offensive
Permission
This significant difference
Between the European and Muslim
Muslim says it is fighting for God and that God is weak
Notbe able todo some thing tohelpinforcingpeople tobelieve
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I don't have any particular problem with the idea of Trinitarianism, but saying that it is slander to claim that Christians worship Jesus is going a bit too far, isn't it?
Thank you
Yessome of theChristiansexaggeratedintheir faith
But I don't say that I worship Jesus man
But I worship God in the person of Jesus
God'sWord
Therefore I overstate my faith so much
I love Jesus to be God
But I cannot say I adore Jesus
I believe in God and the word of God, Jesus Christ
The Word no Latvian holiday without the presence of
And the presence of God among us in the person of Jesus
This belief is simple
 
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johnpeter1970

Guest
If God is the Lord of the worlds (1.2) and the Prophet is described as the messenger for the worlds (21.107) and the Quran is introduced as a reminder to the worlds, (68.52) then:

1. What is the relevance of the Quranic message to the world?

2. How can the world, Muslims and non-Muslims, alike, benefit from the universal message of a universal and compassionate God, during this life and afterlife?

3. Can non-Muslims practice divinely revealed values without acknowledging their original source and without adhering to the total divine call?​

Is that why it is spread by sword?
 
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