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Is the rise of ISIS linked to Climate Change?

dust1n

Zindīq
Right. But the problem is this, from the article itself: "The extinction occurred between 251.941 ± 0.037 and 251.880 ± 0.031 Mya, an interval of 60 ± 48 ka." KA being kiloannum, or a thousand years. So this is a range that is being reported as a solid figure. If we take the high and low estimates as setting the boundaries of the range, I read that as an effective range of 12,000 to 108,000 years, for an event that wiped out 96% of the species. I'm not a geologist and might be getting the range wrong since it doesn't seem to square with the MYA estimate but my point is threefold: 1) these are only precision estimates within the context of deep or geological time, which means that they are vast beyond most human perception and comprehension and 2) they are measuring mass extinction not species-level extinction, and 3) they cannot take into account human behavior or really anything about humanity. Humanity has the ability to accelerate or slow the extinction process.

But very interesting.

Good points. Our knowledge will unfortunately be limited by whatever possible evidences can be found out there in the rocks, and while it's obviously extinction events happen, it's not always so clear all the relevant details.
 

Wirey

Fartist
I did but I still cannot figure out what it is :expressionless:

The point is that it is getting more difficult to grow food in the area. Having a large, young, predominately male population that is underfed makes it easier for groups like ISIS to recruit.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
When climate shifts, places that were previously inhabited for hundreds or thousands of years can turn into places that are no longer inhabitable. This can lead to desperate situations, spurring survival responses. People are more inclined to behave violently when stuff like this happens.

"Desperate times call for desperate measures"

That kind of thing. It's a pattern that evidenced all throughout History. People with declining resources employ whatever tactics they can to acquire more resources. It's simple, really.
 

illykitty

RF's pet cat
Ah, ISIS is ding what it is doing because the weather has changed?

I don't get it!

What they mean is not what they're doing is a result of it, but climate can have an effect on people joining them. Changes in climate result in less food, water shortage, poverty, etc. That make people desperate. And desperate people do things that they wouldn't otherwise do. The suggestion is that IS can recruit those desperate people. I won't say that I agree or disagree with this theory BUT...

It is an important topic because as climate changes, regions closer to the equator will become hotter and resources will become more scarce unless they can adapt, like UAE are making Masdar city in hope for it to be a model for future cities. But they have money for it, imagine places that are already poor and unstable, they will become worse.
 
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