Is the Survival of the Self or Ego an Important Facet of your Afterlife?

[CynthiaCypher]

I believe that when I die not only will my body return to star stuff but whatever spirit that animates and informs Cynthia will return to it's source. In other words the Divine Spark within me will return to God. In this process, I will have achieved theosis, My Will and Self will be completely transformed into God and the person and personality known as Cynthia will be subsumed and obliterated by holiness of the Divinity.

In other words, the things that make me me will not survive the transformation into divinity, anymore than the things that make up your physical body will survive the transformation into star stuff. My persona, my identity and individuality will be gone. And I am perfectly fine with this and this belief is a source of comfort to me. There is more to it than that but I am just offering the simplified version.

Anywho....

How important is it to you for your ego and self to survive death and enjoy an afterlife?

 

[LuisDantas]

It is important for me that they do not.

 

[George-ananda]

It is important for me that they do not.

Why is that important to you?

 

[LuisDantas]

Because far too much that happened should not. I will welcome the rest.

 

[George-ananda]

How important is it to you for your ego and self to survive death and enjoy an afterlife?

It is highly important.

Some comments on your view that are different from my views.

I think ultimately you are right that you will become divine in the One divine. However you think that will happen to ego/self Cynthia. I think it is part of a longer process and you will experience a temporary afterlife as Cynthia, reunited with the soul that spun Cynthia and then continue growing through new incarnations. Eventually you'll merge in the One divine.

 

[George-ananda]

Because far too much that happened should not. I will welcome the rest.

I guess I would not call non-existence, 'rest'.

 

[LuisDantas]

I guess I would not call non-existence, 'rest'.

You are not alone. I don't understand why so many people feel that way.

 

[Runewolf1973]

This is my view. We do not "become" star stuff, we already Are star stuff. We do not become One with any god or any divinity, we are already One. It is only our minds which make us think we are separate, we are not. That which is us, the self, does not cease. Nothing ever ceases to exist, it only changes form.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't believe there's anything to "merge" into or become "one" with. I believe that after you die, you reincarnate when you feel ready. Some souls become earthbound for awhile and others choose to stay in another realm for awhile. When you decide to reincarnate, that's when you drop the "mask" of your previous identity and form a new one.

 

[George-ananda]

You are not alone. I don't understand why so many people feel that way.

Because 'rest' implies a 'rester' I guess.

And peace/rest/love are common components of most afterlife beliefs.

 

[Runewolf1973]

I don't believe there's anything to "merge" into or become "one" with. I believe that after you die, you reincarnate when you feel ready. Some souls become earthbound for awhile and others choose to stay in another realm for awhile. When you decide to reincarnate, that's when you drop the "mask" of your previous identity and form a new one.

This precisely. I even have a significant other who literally sees and talks to these 'earthbound' ones and she says the same thing. Some choose to linger around, others choose to move on. That transfomation is so dramatic that it basically rips the memory of any previous life you had. You get a clean slate. I'm not so sure about the effects of karma though, or if there even is such a thing. A lot of times things just happen by pure chance and there is nothing we can do or could have done to stop it. We must accept the rather chaotic side things The good with the bad..

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

This precisely. I even have a significant other who literally sees and talks to these 'earthbound' ones and she says the same thing. Some choose to linger around, others choose to move on. That transfomation is so dramatic that it basically rips the memory of any previous life you had. You get a clean slate. I'm not so sure about the effects of karma though, or if there even is such a thing. A lot of times things just happen by pure chance and there is nothing we can do or could have done to stop it. We must accept the rather chaotic side things The good with the bad..

I do think that past-life memories are stored somewhere on a deep level. I do think you can remember or at least have flashes of memory.

I don't really believe in karma.

 

[Gehennaite]

How important is it to you for your ego and self to survive death and enjoy an afterlife?

I didn't ask for existence, and I certainly am not asking for a continuance. I judge God as unworthy of my devotion and I am unimpressed with her creation. My life has been utter vexation in its entirety and I will never forgive God for allowing it to exist.

Some suffer far more strife than others and it is appalling to think we will be rewarded equally...

My free will better be intact, along with all of my memories and my defined persona. I plan to join whatever resistance there is in the afterlife. It's much more pleasurable to rebel than it is to conform.

 

[Runewolf1973]

I do think that past-life memories are stored somewhere on a deep level. I do think you can remember or at least have flashes of memory.

I don't really believe in karma.

I agree. It is possible to remember some of our past life experiences. This is because every experience leaves an imprint on our being. Like I said, nothing is ever truly destroyed, not even that imprint which is our memories.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I agree. It is possible to remember some of our past life experiences. This is because every experience leaves an imprint on our being. Like I said, nothing is ever truly destroyed, not even that imprint which is our memories.

Exactly! Maybe they're stored somewhere and we're able to fully access them after we cross over but before being reborn, like going through a review.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Exactly! Maybe they're stored somewhere and we're able to fully access them after we cross over but before being reborn, like going through a review.

They are probably stored in the electrons and atoms that make up you at this very moment.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I believe that when I die not only will my body return to star stuff but whatever spirit that animates and informs Cynthia will return to it's source. In other words the Divine Spark within me will return to God. In this process, I will have achieved theosis, My Will and Self will be completely transformed into God and the person and personality known as Cynthia will be subsumed and obliterated by holiness of the Divinity.

In other words, the things that make me me will not survive the transformation into divinity, anymore than the things that make up your physical body will survive the transformation into star stuff. My persona, my identity and individuality will be gone. And I am perfectly fine with this and this belief is a source of comfort to me. There is more to it than that but I am just offering the simplified version.

Anywho....

How important is it to you for your ego and self to survive death and enjoy an afterlife?

Not to sound emo, but I find life to be a burden because it is what allows the existence of burdens. With that, I'd prefer the self to not survive, but I know that is impossible.

 

[Runewolf1973]

They are probably stored in the electrons and atoms that make up you at this very moment.

I would say this is probably pretty accurate. As far as I understand it, no matter how small, all things have at least some gravitational force. It is a fundamental property of matter and it may be that attracting force which causes physical signals or stimuli to latch onto those particles of matter. Hence, it is not us that remembers, it is the very atoms or electrons we are composed of that retain that imprint. Once that imprint is made, it will forever remain part of us without us necessarily even realizing it. Perhaps the force of gravity is what binds those imprints to us. Anyway, that's just a theory of mine and I know, it may sound a little crazy. Oh well.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I would say this is probably pretty accurate. As far as I understand it, no matter how small, all things have at least some gravitational force. It is a fundamental property of matter and it may be that attracting force which causes physical signals or stimuli to latch onto those particles of matter. Hence, it is not us that remembers, it is the very atoms or electrons we are composed of that retain that imprint. Once that imprint is made, it will forever remain part of us without us necessarily even realizing it. Perhaps the force of gravity is what binds those imprints to us. Anyway, that's just a theory of mine and I know, it may sound a little crazy. Oh well.

Not crazy at all. It makes a lot of sense. There's so much we have left to learn about these things. Science is just getting started.

 

[LuisDantas]

Because 'rest' implies a 'rester' I guess.

And an afterlife implies someone to go through it, doesn't it?

And peace/rest/love are common components of most afterlife beliefs.

Including mine... it just turns out that it does not involve an afterlife as such, or keeping or recreating my ego or consciousness.