Is the universe conscious of itself...

[Aupmanyav]

I'm listening to "Supermassive Black Hole" right now. It's a little unnerving.

Don't worry, not happening to us in near future, Yes, the sun may explode anytime, and if that happens, we can't do much about it.

Are we just a product of the universe becoming conscious of itself?

Yes, the universe is conscious of itself (spooky action at a distance). But this consciousness is different from human consciousness.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Yes, the sun may explode anytime....

I don't think my household insurance covers that.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Will that be of any use in that eventuality. Spend your money now.

 

[EtuMalku]

I see no evidence that shows the Universe (objective universe) to be anything more than an unintelligent, memetic, mechanistic process incapable of Consciousness.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I see no evidence that shows the Universe (objective universe) to be anything more than an unintelligent, memetic, mechanistic process incapable of Consciousness.

Much like most humans....who is say most are not mostly android in function?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Spend your money now.

More ice-cream!

 

[EtuMalku]

Much like most humans....who is say most are not mostly android in function?

Which is why it's imperative to follow the western left hand path . . . it keeps you on your toes!

 

[outhouse]

Much like most humans....who is say most are not mostly android in function?

No

Factually the opposite of all humans

 

[Ben Dhyan]

No

Factually the opposite of all humans

About 90% of humans are actors....the only 'know' what they been told....what is your figure?

 

[outhouse]

About 90% of humans are actors

Actors are not android in function, if the average was that high they would simply be called human nothing more.


But it is typical for you to move goal post and stretch the English language into what ever you want

 

[RRex]

Outhouse,

All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts . . .

William Shakespeare knew what he was talking about. We are all actors - in someone else's production. Creator, Great Spirit, God - who knows who it is?

 

[gnostic]

Six months later, and my answer is the same as before, the universe IS NOT CONSCIOUS.

That there are life on this planet, and there may be life in other planets, where creatures may be conscious of their own existence, but the universe is not a conscious being.

 

[gnostic]

More ice-cream!

If I have any more, I think I am going to barf.

Asians and all that creamy goodness...it's really not a good combination.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Yes, the universe is conscious of itself (spooky action at a distance).

What does this have to do with consciousness?

 

[Aupmanyav]

It is consciousness of a kind, and as I said different from human consciousness. The two should not to be confused.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

It is consciousness but different from human consciousness. The two are not to be confused.

Ok, but even ignoring that we define consciousness in terms of our understanding of human awareness (or self-awareness), and even assuming that the universe is conscious but not as humans are, what does nonlocality have to do with this?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Gravity waves traveling at the speed of light. We recorded some from the merger of two black-holes. Universal communication.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Components of the system are from our (localised) fragmented perspective.

No, actually, quite the opposite. Our experience of consciousness is necessarily holistic. We do not experience neurons firing, nor do we experience consciousness as though it were produced by any components. Rather, consciousness is necessarily a unified, holistic sense of awareness. Consciousness can't be perceived/experienced "locally" for the very reason that this would fragment the unity that is consciousness.

From the perspective of the non-local whole, there can be two kinds of views.

From the perspective of the nonlocal whole, there is only the nonlocal whole (actually, consciousness is less "nonlocal" and more "not localized"; whatever brain dynamics may or may not underlie human conscious experience, the actual consciousness is not located in space nor localized at all).

The whole can chose to see externally the forms as undulations of itself. Or the whole can chose to introvert and relish the homogeneity.

The whole cannot experience itself as any "self" (any "whole" which is aware and in particular self-aware) unless this experience is necessarily divorced from the parts.

 

[Aupmanyav]

The whole cannot experience itself as any "self" (any "whole" which is aware and in particular self-aware) unless this experience is necessarily divorced from the parts.

That perhaps is the difference between the consciousness of the universe and human consciousness, local - non-local.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Gravity waves traveling at the speed of light.

They don't. They actually don't travel at all, really (like classical waves, they don't exist except as disruptions to the media in which they propagate). Gravity was nonlocal in classical physics in a way far more troubling than nonlocality in quantum physics. However, gravitational "waves" are produced locally via warping of spacetime:
"In the same way, in general relativity, Einstein’s field equations (1915) not only described the gravitational interaction via the spacetime curvature generated by mass-energy, but also contained, through the Bianchi identities, the equations of motion of matter and fields, and on their basis Albert Einstein, in 1916, a few months after the formulation of the theory, predicted the existence of curvature perturbations propagating with speed c on a flat and empty spacetime; the gravitational waves"
Ciufolini, I., & Gorini, V. (2001). Gravitational waves, theory and experiment (an overview). In I. Ciufolini, V. Gorini, U. Moschella, & P. Fre, (Eds.) Gravitational Waves (Series in High Energy Physics, Cosmology and Gravitation) (pp. 1-10). IoP Press.
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We recorded some from an event which happened some 1.5 billion years ago. Fastest delivery.

It took 1.5 billion years for the signal to reach us. We record signals this fact every time we open our eyes.