Is the USA a Christian nation?

[Jainarayan]

That's like wearing an hindu head wrap claiming it's a fashion style and has nothing to with being a hindu!!

Hindus don’t wear head wraps.

 

[David T]

Hindus don’t wear head wraps.

Hindus don’t wear head wraps.

Ha my bad, I was obviously thinking Sikhs which is dumb. I am American for petes sake we are born to say dumb stuff about other cultures it's our divine right!!!

The US is a secular society but heaven forbid if Christmas stopped. It's an absurdity we have along with our president but hey... Any in the secular hindu society?

Actually secular is really just a governmental term really, that has zero actual meaning independent of religion. It's meaningless without religion it's never free and independent from religion at all. Being "secular" has no real independent meaning unto itself.

BTW I hoped I made you laugh we don't laugh enough starting with ourselves.

 

[Alucard]

Hindus don’t wear head wraps.

What about Pagris?

 

[Deeje]

"The Constitution of the United States established the United State s of America as a Christian nation."

This statement was made by a well known politician in 2007.

Do you think it’s true?

There has never been a "Christian nation" in all of the history of the last 2,000 years.

The idea of a religious "nation" came from the Jews (as God's chosen people) being gifted a land by the rightful owner of all the earth. Other nations took their land by military force, conquering the occupants and either evicting them or subjugating them. God always backed his own people when they were defending their land from invaders. No other nation can claim that their land was gifted to them by God because most of them stole it from other people.

To take the words of a famous Aussie movie larrikin "Crocodile Dundee"....'men fighting over which part of the earth belongs to them is like fleas fighting over which part of the dog they own'. The dog belongs to someone else. He can give the dog a bath and get rid of the irritating little critters.

Do you think it would be logical for a Christian to believe it to be true?

Christians who actually understand that the whole world is ruled by a pretender (1 John 5:19) who challenged the sovereignty of the rightful owner of the earth, will know that he allows that pretender just so much freedom and no more. (think of Job and the limits that were set in his case) If God's adversary was permitted a totally free hand, then none of God's worshipers would be alive, so he put in place safeguards in the form of human governments so that his people could still have the freedom to accomplish his will. It affords them a relative measure of peace and security. It is also of note to realize that Jesus told his disciples to be "no part" of any of it. (John 18:36) That means no part of its politics, its greed, its immorality or its agenda.

Jesus demonstrated the kind of attitude we should have by how he lived under the Roman domination of his people in the first century. He never once tried to correct things in a political way but told his disciples to be law abiding and neutral. Even when they were unfairly treated, they did not retaliate or plot to seek revenge.

Christ's disciples are a spiritual nation, not physically attached to any one nation in particular. We come from "all tribes, people and nations" but we all speak the language of truth. This is the "great crowd" of Revelation 7:9-10 seen as survivors of the coming "great tribulation" soon to engulf this earth. (Matthew 24:21)

Christians are in the world but not of it. (1 John 2:15-17) We are waiting patiently for God's Kingdom to "come" and for his will to "be done on earth as it is in heaven". It will be worth the wait.

 

[Jainarayan]

What about Pagris?

Hindus don’t wear head wraps or turbans.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Regarding whether America is a Christian nation or not, that's pretty easy: It is a nation that has always had a Christian majority, although that will be changing in about 20-25 years (extrapolating the trends of the last 27 years)

My concern in regards to the change you see coming, is that the change seems to have been given a serious setback since last November.

Maybe, but that change may actually accelerate the process. The Christians are becoming more recalcitrant, but that doesn't attract people to Christianity or increase their numbers, and is probably a big turn off for most young people. The transition comes not from Christians converting to atheism, but from older Christians passing away and being replaced by their atheist grandchildren, who are being shown a very negative face of the religion and are questioning its accuracy, relevance, and moral fitness.

 

[Valjean]

The first settlers in what would become the USA were trying to found a perfect religious settlement in the north and to establish a colony for commerce in the south.

So to me it's most accurate to say that the USA is not a Christian nation but there is some Christian "DNA" in its blood along with many Americans being Christian.

If you're referring to the Puritans of the Plymouth Colony, their religious intolerance was one of the reasons a separation of church and state was a feature of the US constitution.
Different regions were establishing religious hegemonies, intolerant of infidels.

The founding fathers were well aware of the religious wars that had torn Europe apart not that long ago, and wanted no repeat of them in America.

Jefferson feared religion would corrupt government; Madison feared government would corrupt religion. Everyone recognized religion as a political powder keg, and deliberately kept it out of government.

 

[sun rise]

If you're referring to the Puritans of the Plymouth Colony, their religious intolerance was one of the reasons a separation of church and state was a feature of the US constitution.
Different regions were establishing religious hegemonies, intolerant of infidels.

The founding fathers were well aware of the religious wars that had torn Europe apart not that long ago, and wanted no repeat of them in America.

Jefferson feared religion would corrupt government; Madison feared government would corrupt religion. Everyone recognized religion as a political powder keg, and deliberately kept it out of government.

Yes, indeed, that is true. But there were also Quakers in Pennsylvania.

And I was thinking of some ideas that are part of our ideals that came from religion but were carried forward as secular ideas.