Is the WWE violence or a performing arts? What do people think God would think about this?

[Riverwolf]

It stains clothes and is not sanitary.

Good thing wrestlers don't wear much in the way of clothing, then. ^_^

From what I've seen, half of society's conceptions of "sanitation" are little more than outdated taboos and social phobias.

...still not sure what the problem of seeing it depicted is, though. It's something that's always confused me: adults are always trying to hide depictions of blood from kids, because... apparently... uh... it's... icky?

 

[Paranoid Android]

Is the WWE violence or a performing arts? What do you people think God would think about this?

I believe God would be against it. God wants everyone to be pacifistic, to abandon the tools of war. The earth is supposed to be like the Garden of Eden. Of course, we will have to wait until the Last Prophet arrives to make it that way.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

Appearances aren't everything. It appears as though the earth is flat and that the sun moves across the sky, but we know that isn't so, when we bother to investigate what's really going on. I rather suspect you haven't bothered to really investigate what's going on in religion.

See above. Your statement is untenable when illuminated by any real investigation.

It wouldn't have surprised me in the least if your rebuttal had been in support of the WWE.

...

Meanwhile (as you've argued) it might appear to its adherents that the claims made by religion makes sense ... but we know it isn't so when we bother to investigate what's going on.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

After Jake Roberts sobered up, he preached a bit on WWF. Actually, had he not been preaching, the craze of Austin 3:16 would not have happened.

I have no idea who Jake Roberts is. Sorry.

I wouldn't say it's entirely feigned. Accidents are prone to happening, sometimes it is deliberate, and the wrestlers get hurt, sometimes severely. But even if you do everything right, you're still going to be a bit sore after a match. Back the late 90s, they had a boxing tournament, and it was actual boxing, and people were getting hurt (largely because only one of them had any experience with boxing, and he dominated the tournament until he got the championship match and fought a professional boxer) to the point they didn't do it again.

Once again, please see: "Minutiae, debate the"

 

[sojourner]

Meanwhile (as you've argued) it might appear to its adherents that the claims made by religion makes sense ... but we know it isn't so when we bother to investigate what's going on.

Patently. Untrue. Give me one religious claim that I think makes sense that doesn't, upon investigation. I dare ya.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

Patently. Untrue. Give me one religious claim that I think makes sense that doesn't, upon investigation. I dare ya.

Your demand could only be met by a being capable of mind-reading.

So I'll not address it again.

...

You are of course free to offer up a list of religious claims that you actually do think make sense. We'll then be free to resume a normal discussion.

 

[sojourner]

Your demand could only be met by a being capable of mind-reading.

So I'll not address it again.

...

You are of course free to offer up a list of religious claims that you actually do think make sense. We'll then be free to resume a normal discussion.

IOW, you can't back up your claim. Ponder that on Funk & Wagnall's porch until noon today.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I have no idea who Jake Roberts is. Sorry.

Jake "The Snake" Roberts struggled with alcohol addiction, and he is someone who found strength to overcome his addiction in religion. Because his religion was very important to him, and because he was such a huge fan favorite, Vince agreed to let him do a bit of preaching during their shows. It lead to an incident that is another reason why I so strongly resent Jerry "The King" Lawler, because Jerry thought Jake's sobriety and conversion were fake, and during an angle Jerry had a cup full of whiskey and he slung the whiskey on Jake's face. Which leads back to my other point that it isn't always fake, and that sometimes it gets rather bitter and nasty. In an ECW match, it was Bam Bam Bigelow against someone, and the someone I don't remember accidentally really hit Bam Bam, and Bam Bam full-forced hit the guy in retaliation.
One of my favorite stories involved a local wrestler here who billed himself as King Kong Bundy Jr., and the real King Kong Bundy hated it, and Jr., so much that the guy running the promo here (this particular one folded years ago) wouldn't let Jr. use the same locker room.
I also met Glenn Gilbertti (better known as Disco Inferno) once (I was working security at this particular show), but it wasn't under very good circumstances as he was pissed that the ring was sitting, uncovered, under a baking hot sun and he wasn't happy about the way things were ran in that promotion. It pretty much went him: Is that the ring? Me: yup. Him: That's (a bunch of profanity)! Me: yup.
At times I miss doing it, but then I remind myself how hard is it to find people who actually want to take it seriously. I can find a ton of people who want to do it, but they tend to be a bunch of egotists who want to do it their way, not put in the effort it takes to get good at it (let alone doing the exercising and training it takes to stay in shape for doing it), or realize and accept that winning and loosing, holding belts and loosing them, are nothing about them or their fragile egos but part of a larger story that has to get the audience wanting to pay to see what happens next.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

Jake "The Snake" Roberts struggled with alcohol addiction, and he is someone who found strength to overcome his addiction in religion. Because his religion was very important to him, and because he was such a huge fan favorite, Vince agreed to let him do a bit of preaching during their shows. It lead to an incident that is another reason why I so strongly resent Jerry "The King" Lawler, because Jerry thought Jake's sobriety and conversion were fake, and during an angle Jerry had a cup full of whiskey and he slung the whiskey on Jake's face. Which leads back to my other point that it isn't always fake, and that sometimes it gets rather bitter and nasty. In an ECW match, it was Bam Bam Bigelow against someone, and the someone I don't remember accidentally really hit Bam Bam, and Bam Bam full-forced hit the guy in retaliation.
One of my favorite stories involved a local wrestler here who billed himself as King Kong Bundy Jr., and the real King Kong Bundy hated it, and Jr., so much that the guy running the promo here (this particular one folded years ago) wouldn't let Jr. use the same locker room.
I also met Glenn Gilbertti (better known as Disco Inferno) once (I was working security at this particular show), but it wasn't under very good circumstances as he was pissed that the ring was sitting, uncovered, under a baking hot sun and he wasn't happy about the way things were ran in that promotion. It pretty much went him: Is that the ring? Me: yup. Him: That's (a bunch of profanity)! Me: yup.
At times I miss doing it, but then I remind myself how hard is it to find people who actually want to take it seriously. I can find a ton of people who want to do it, but they tend to be a bunch of egotists who want to do it their way, not put in the effort it takes to get good at it (let alone doing the exercising and training it takes to stay in shape for doing it), or realize and accept that winning and loosing, holding belts and loosing them, are nothing about them or their fragile egos but part of a larger story that has to get the audience wanting to pay to see what happens next.

I am now more convinced than ever that the two (religion and pro wrestling) are closer in nature than I'd previously thought possible.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

IOW, you can't back up your claim.

Because you've already stipulated that I must know the contents of your mind.

Ponder that on Funk & Wagnall's porch until noon today.

In this case, the porch of Binney & Smith seems more apropos.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I am now more convinced than ever that the two (religion and pro wrestling) are closer in nature than I'd previously thought possible.

It may surprise you that many pro-wrestlers are actually very religious.