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Is there a Nazi problem in the Ukraine?

fantome profane

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
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BigBill88

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I do know the President is a Jew - so what is he a Nazi Jew? I would say there was wide spread corruption but that was getting better and was a reason why they didn't get in the UN they were told to clean that up - it sure doesn't look like they want to be Russian as Putin proclaims. Damn the USA and Russia have lots of Nazis living in their country among other countries a lot more Nazis than whats in the Ukraine
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
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Twilight Hue said:
Opinion | Ukraine's Nazi problem is real, even if Putin's 'denazification' claim isn't

Apparently there is a history. No more no less than radicals found in any nation?

Thoughts?
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I wonder how that compares with the nazi problem we have in the US: There's a world-wide rise in bigotry so it's not surprising it exists in the Ukraine as well. It's certainly something that concerns me both here in the USA and elsewhere. And it's not just Jews but as we've seen people from China, South Korea and Japan.

ADL’s most recent Audit of Antisemitic Incidents in the United States recorded more than 2,100 acts of assault, vandalism and harassment, an increase of 12 percent over the previous year. This is the highest level of antisemitic incidents since ADL’s tracking began in 1979. The year included five fatalities directly linked to antisemitic violence and another 91 individuals targeted in physical assaults.

Assault, harassment and vandalism against Jews remain at near-historic levels in the U.S. The deadly attacks in synagogues in Pittsburgh and Poway have made American Jews feel more vulnerable than they have felt in decades.
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In August 2017, the country saw a disturbing manifestation of antisemitism at the alt right “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, where hundreds of marchers threw Nazi salutes, waved swastika flags and shouted “Seig Heil” And “Jews will not replace us!” ADL researchers identified more than 300 of the estimated 500-600 individuals who showed up to support the antisemitic and racist rally.
 
Nimos

Nimos

Well-Known Member
Twilight Hue said:
Opinion | Ukraine's Nazi problem is real, even if Putin's 'denazification' claim isn't

Apparently there is a history. No more no less than radicals found in any nation?

Thoughts?
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Even if they have a Nazi problem, they have to solve it not the Russians. All countries have issues with racism, some more than others and equally there are other problems as well in different countries, which equally are theirs to solve. If Ukraine were doing exterminations as those we saw during WW2, fair enough that the world put a stop to it, but I don't think, or at least I haven't heard anything even remotely suggesting that.

Just think about how much media cover racist issues have had in the US the last many years, you don't see China, Russia and the EU invading them either. Its purely a bad excuse for Putin to justify his war for the Russia people, he is well aware that none of the western countries are going to buy it. I don't know about the middle eastern ones.
 
Orbit

Orbit

I'm a planet
Audie said:
No, there is an American problem.

Russia wont tolerate a western / usa sycophant ukraine
any more than is would have the rusdsans in mexico.
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So Ukraine has no right to make its own decisions? It has to be resigned to being occupied by Russia? If they had previously joined NATO, this wouldn't be happening. It's not like the US is going to invade Russian territory, but the Russians like to invade the territory of their European neighbors. It's a Putin problem. It's not like the US is proposing to put nukes in Ukraine.
 
Audie

Audie

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Orbit said:
So Ukraine has no right to make its own decisions? It has to be resigned to being occupied by Russia? If they had previously joined NATO, this wouldn't be happening. It's not like the US is going to invade Russian territory, but the Russians like to invade the territory of their European neighbors. It's a Putin problem. It's not like the US is proposing to put nukes in Ukraine.
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That is what you are told.
 
Kooky

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Father Heathen said:
How widespread or popular is the ideology among Ukraine's officials and general public? How does it compare to the U.S.'s own "Nazi problem"?
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You be the judge:


Azov Battalion - Wikipedia
Azov Special Operations Detachment (Ukrainian: Окремий загін спеціального призначення «Азов», romanized: Okremyi zahin spetsialnoho pryznachennia "Azov"), often known as Azov Detachment, Azov Regiment (Ukrainian: Полк Азов, romanized: Polk Azov), or Azov Battalion (until September 2014), is a right-wing extremist[1] and neo-Nazi[2][3][4] unit of the National Guard of Ukraine,[5][6][7] based in Mariupol, in the Azov Sea coastal region.[8] It has been fighting Russian separatist forces in the Donbas War.
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On 12 November 2014, Azov was incorporated into the National Guard of Ukraine, and since then all members are official soldiers serving in the National Guard.
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National Corps - Wikipedia
During its campaign for the 2019 Ukrainian parliamentary election, the party formed a united radical right nationwide-party list with the Governmental Initiative of Yarosh, the Right Sector, and Svoboda.[6] This coalition won a combined 2.15% of the nationwide electoral list vote but ultimately failed to win any seat in the Verkhovna Rada.
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Kooky

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Nimos said:
Even if they have a Nazi problem, they have to solve it not the Russians.
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Given how much money and support the Putin regime has poured into European nationalist xenophobic parties like UKIP, VB, RN and AfD, let alone outright Neonazis like Jobbik or Golden Dawn, I think any Russian involvement would be more likely to make any country's Nazi problem ten times worse rather than better.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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The only "Nazi problem" for Putin is that he cannot seem to find significant numbers of them Every country is going to have its radicals. A poorer country or one with a huge wealth disparity will tend to have more than a well off country with a small wealth disparity. Ukraine is not the wealthiest of countries and there is a bit of disparity so of course there are going to be some that hate others and try to blame them for the woes of the country. I think that the story appears to be making this more a threat than it ever was.
 
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