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Is there a resource of Athe(ism)?

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is that what you did to gain your beliefs? That is, research all the various faiths so as to make sure you got the right one, or maybe opt out, as many of us have done - opting out, that is, rather than wasting time with the other. :oops:
Friend, just do the same critical verification of the " resource " of Atheists' ism, please. Is it asking too much of them, please? Right?
if others are wrong, that doesn't make this new ism is innocent, please? Right?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Sorry, but you are wrong here. Etymology is a tool only. It is not an absolute. Do I go around you trying to correct you on the use of Arabic words? I am betting that one cannot be one hundred percent literal with the definitions of those either.
One may start making a "resource" for this "ism", if unfortunately, none exist hitherto, please. One may start with life, just a suggestion, when it ends that is " Afterlife ". One may name the first chapter of " resource " of this ism on "afterlife", please. Right?

Regards
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Friend, just do the same critical verification of the " resource " of Atheists' ism, please. Is it asking too much of them, please? Right?
if others are wrong, that doesn't make this new ism is innocent, please? Right?

Regards
What kind of resources are you speaking of when it comes to Atheism?
 

Mock Turtle

2025 Trumposphere began
Premium Member
Friend, just do the same critical verification of the " resource " of Atheists' ism, please. Is it asking too much of them, please? Right?
if others are wrong, that doesn't make this new ism is innocent, please? Right?

Regards
Well I often don't mean to be nasty - although it is my nature apparently - but the resources that any atheist might look towards is mostly everything outside religious belief. They might not exclude the latter but the rest tends to overwhelm this, and is probably why most are atheists rather than anything else. So what exactly is the resource you think atheists attribute their non-beliefs to? The things that some of the religious apparently will not accept? You must have seen enough here on RF to realise many of those with religious convictions will not accept even the most basic of scientific knowledge and current opinion as to many things.
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Sorry, but you are wrong here. Etymology is a tool only. It is not an absolute. Do I go around you trying to correct you on the use of Arabic words? I am betting that one cannot be one hundred percent literal with the definitions of those either.
I said terms are tools, like Athe(ism) is a term , neither it belongs to the truthful natural Religion, nor to the Science. Right?
To me this "ism" is an imaginary philosophical term, it doesn't depict natural human life, please. Right?

Regards
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Well I am seeking to know the "resource" of Athe(ism), so don't get distracted, please.
I am a good listener, please.
The Second Coming/Imam Mahdi, I understand, did appreciate one aspect of this new born ism, please.
It is true, I understand, that Paul and Pauline-Christianity are Anti-Jesus, as it is mythical right from the start, now Richard Carrier has also written much about it. Right
Likewise Athe(ism) has exposed the Pauline-Christianity that Jesus-god is Anti-Jesus, my understanding, please. Right?
Athe(ism) is born in the West so it is good that they have refused to accept Jesus-god holy-spirit-god flesh-god father-god son-god. Right?
Athe(ism) is born in the West in counter-reaction to Pauline-Christianity, to me. Right?

Regards

Wrong,there are former Muslims and Hindus that are atheists.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Well I often don't mean to be nasty - although it is my nature apparently - but the resources that any atheist might look towards is mostly everything outside religious belief. They might not exclude the latter but the rest tends to overwhelm this, and is probably why most are atheists rather than anything else. So what exactly is the resource you think atheists attribute their non-beliefs to? The things that some of the religious apparently will not accept? You must have seen enough here on RF to realise many of those with religious convictions will not accept even the most basic of scientific knowledge and current opinion as to many things.
Science does not support Atheist' imaginary ism. so this ism not to become (authorized) spokespersons of Science, please. They may limit themselves to Philosophy their relative domain, please. Right?
I admit Athe(ism) has played a positive role against Anti-Jesus Pauline-Christianity, I understand, and people in the West are waking up from their mythical creeds they had been trapped into for the last two thousand years , never supported by truthful Jesus, as I understand, please. Right?

Regards
 

Mock Turtle

2025 Trumposphere began
Premium Member
Science does not support Atheist' imaginary ism. so this ism not to become (authorized) spokespersons of Science, please. They may limit themselves to Philosophy their relative domain, please. Right?
I admit Athe(ism) has played a positive role against Anti-Jesus Pauline-Christianity, I understand, and people in the West are waking up from their mythical creeds they had been trapped into for the last two thousand years , never supported by truthful Jesus, as I understand, please. Right?

Regards
Just ignore all the science and carry on as usual then. :oops:
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Wrong,there are former Muslims and Hindus that are atheists.
I understand they are from the East and have different concepts, please. They existed much before the Athe(ism) of the West:

atheism (n.)

"the doctrine that there is no God;" "disbelief in any regularity in the universe to which man must conform himself under penalties" [J.R. Seeley, "Natural Religion," 1882], 1580s, from French athéisme (16c.), with -ism + Greek atheos "without a god, denying the gods," from a- "without" (see a- (3)) + theos "a god" (from PIE root *dhes-, forming words for religious concepts). A slightly earlier form is represented by atheonism (1530s) which is perhaps from Italian atheo "atheist." The ancient Greek noun was atheotes "ungodliness."

In late 19c. sometimes further distinguished into secondary senses "The denial of theism, that is, of the doctrine that the great first cause is a supreme, intelligent, righteous person" [Century Dictionary, 1897] and "practical indifference to and disregard of God, godlessness."

In the first sense above given, atheism is to be discriminated from pantheism, which denies the personality of God, and from agnosticism, which denies the possibility of positive knowledge concerning him. In the second sense, atheism includes both pantheism and agnosticism. [Century Dictionary]
atheism | Search Online Etymology Dictionary
Right?

Regards
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Science does not support Atheist' imaginary ism. so this ism not to become (authorized) spokespersons of Science, please. They may limit themselves to Philosophy their relative domain, please. Right?
I admit Athe(ism) has played a positive role against Anti-Jesus Pauline-Christianity, I understand, and people in the West are waking up from their mythical creeds they had been trapped into for the last two thousand years , never supported by truthful Jesus, as I understand, please. Right?

Regards

The west did wake up during “the enlightenment “
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I understand they are from the East and have different concepts, please. They existed much before the Athe(ism) of the West:

atheism (n.)

"the doctrine that there is no God;" "disbelief in any regularity in the universe to which man must conform himself under penalties" [J.R. Seeley, "Natural Religion," 1882], 1580s, from French athéisme (16c.), with -ism + Greek atheos "without a god, denying the gods," from a- "without" (see a- (3)) + theos "a god" (from PIE root *dhes-, forming words for religious concepts). A slightly earlier form is represented by atheonism (1530s) which is perhaps from Italian atheo "atheist." The ancient Greek noun was atheotes "ungodliness."

In late 19c. sometimes further distinguished into secondary senses "The denial of theism, that is, of the doctrine that the great first cause is a supreme, intelligent, righteous person" [Century Dictionary, 1897] and "practical indifference to and disregard of God, godlessness."

In the first sense above given, atheism is to be discriminated from pantheism, which denies the personality of God, and from agnosticism, which denies the possibility of positive knowledge concerning him. In the second sense, atheism includes both pantheism and agnosticism. [Century Dictionary]
atheism | Search Online Etymology Dictionary
Right?

Regards

Atheism is a stance,it’s not complicated,from your resources Muhammad went on a flying donkey to Jerusalem,went up to heaven 50 times to negotiate with your god how many times salat was to be performed,nobody witnessed it of course,and there is no evidence for it so I for example I dismiss it as mythology and reject it.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If they don't, then none of them is to die. But their life also come to an end, and afterward is only "afterlife"- when there is no life. It is very natural but this ism is imaginary, I understand. Right?

Regards
I do not speak for atheists, since I am not one myself. But in my understanding, the majority of atheists believe that when humans die, it is nothing more, no dreams, no existence, no life at all. not even blackness. it is seasing of existence.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Atheism is a stance,it’s not complicated,from your resources Muhammad went on a flying donkey to Jerusalem,went up to heaven 50 times to negotiate with your god how many times salat was to be performed,nobody witnessed it of course,and there is no evidence for it so I for example I dismiss it as mythology and reject it.
One's information is very deficient, I understand, about the truthful religion, please. Right?

Regards
 
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