PoetPhilosopher
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The cake WAS a lie.
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Is There any Link Between Conservative Political and Social Views and...
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The cake WAS a lie.
You're right....Curse my poorly wired brain!
Damn cakes....tricked again!
But pie is trustworthy.
Erebus
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I find that the only thing keeping me sane right now are those calming, motivational quotes you find on social media
Rational Agnostic
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You think this guy (a Trump supporting conservative) lives a boring life? https://www.instagram.com/danbilzerian/?hl=en
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
Thinking it over, there really is the open question in this thread of how I think conservatism created an "us vs. them" mentality for me when liberal politics are so vocal - something which I can't deny. Basically, as a progressionist, I find it easy to try to not be super vocal politically to the point where feet get stepped on and tables overturned even when tables getting overturned does nothing. Whereas from my days of trying to be conservative and believing everything that the Bible told me, I did, admittedly view people of different faiths differently. The real irony is that some of these people later became great friends who strengthen my faith, whether or not my faith was the same as theirs. So yeah, I was just saying "The OP is true to me."
Where I live, it's kind of a mixed bag. Arizona is becoming more of a "purplish" state to some degree, although there are still some rather staunch conservatives - along with a fair number of liberals and leftists.
Most people, regardless of their political views, might live relatively modest, humdrum lives. Some of it may be stale and passionless - although that might better describe those who are completely apathetic and have no real political views at all.
I'll give more credit to those who have the gumption to take a stand and defend it. I don't see how that can be considered boring or dull.
In my travels around America, with family scattered all over the place, I've gotten the sense that there are numerous regional cultures and sub-cultures that exist. Someone from an urban culture might look at their rural cousins and think "Gee, their lives must pretty dull and boring and stale." But it's just different - it's not necessarily dull or boring, but even if it was, there are some people who like it that way.
They might look at their sophisticated urban cousins and think "Gee, what kind of chaotic, hurly-burly world are they living in?"
I think of certain liberal bastions, such as New York and Los Angeles. For one thing, it's incredibly expensive to live there, and there's an extreme level of materialism, consumerism, a love of luxury and wealth which is unparalleled in some of the less sophisticated areas of the country. They come off as incredibly shallow and superficial, embracing image over substance, dazzled by glamor, glitz, and glitter. These are the limousine liberals - those who earn immense profits, spend money wildly, flaunt their wealth, but then send a few bucks to the starving kids in Africa so they can pretend that they care.
Those who live in "flyover country" are not so dumb that they can't see that it's all a sham, that it's totally phony. A false image.
I've had some rather sharp disagreements with conservatives, although my general experience is that they've often seemed more real to me than many of the liberals I've known - many of whom come across as false, uptight, condescending, smarmy, and constantly on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
I was going to say thats a framboise, you beat me to it
Dont trust him, cakes dont dont lie.
It is also true that any cake you dont really want has no calories
dianaiad
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No...that you are assigning the 'Us vs Them" attitude to the Conservatives, when the OP (and the posts from liberals here so far) are very firmly 'us vs. them,' with all sorts of negative attributes attached to 'them.'
Call it irony.
Call it projection.
dianaiad
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They're real, albeit topped with strawberry confection.
raspberry.
dianaiad
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I live in California. Not the coastal part....one has to go over the mountains to see the desert, and where I live, the folks are mostly (whisper this one) politically conservative.
.........as they are pretty much everywhere in California where you can't see the ocean.
I do, however, have to deal with the coastal types, and you are absolutely right.
Nancy Pelosi liberals.
No, The Surprising Reason Conservatives Are Happier Than Liberals | HuffPost.
Admittedly, this is just a re-post of information that was originally on the AP. In a country like the USA where the government leans liberal by all accounts, conservatives are generally happy as clams most of the time.Conservatives rarely think of themselves as much, often if they have a beef with the government it is relation to situations which they feel affect their children and other family members negatively. If it's just affecting them they're not nearly as upset. Since modern day liberals are less likely to have many children, and typically more obsessed with their own needs they simply cannot "walk in the other persons shoes". Contrarily, the conservative typically understands the liberal viewpoint more than those liberals think -- they just see it as selfish or economically disastrous, and by extension occasionally morally reprehensible. Though admittedly, there are exceptions to the rule. Anyway, in America you have very few staunch conservatives -- you have a lot more right leaning centrists and people who exactly in the middle of the "extreme right" and the center. Those people are actually the bulk of the Republican voters.
No, people don't embrace beliefs that upset them. The other things are just your opinions.
Associating with too many people whom share your beliefs will ultimately lead you to feel this way, and it's not good for your perspective at all.
I think you're pandering to your own confirmation biases and projecting the failings onto someone else of some "different class of people". They're not all that different from you other than the initial position they start from. Conservatives have many points of agreement with liberals, regardless of how it seems to you currently: for example: safety, economic opportunity, and so on. They might disagree on education content, LGBT matters, and so on -- but, there is common ground. The first trait of an extremist is trying to paint others as extremists and demonizing their views. You might want to think about that for awhile and that is probably worse for you than anything you've mentioned.
As a conservative, I can't say that I have seen that viewpoint. Maybe it the location that I live in? In our neck of the woods, it is liberating, filled with faith and love, positive and very upbeat.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
I see what you mean. As a person who tries to see things in an intellectually honest way... Thank you for pointing that out. Do I still get cake?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
This is why we have your framed picture in many rooms of our home....
Father Heathen
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Huh. I had no idea that basement-dwelling weeb/neckbeard culture became heavily politicialized nor socially relevant.
Father Heathen
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Oh please. Don't pretend that tribalism and an "us vs .them" attitude doesn't exist on both sides, especially considering the rhetoric routinely used.
An obvious example of this is conservatives referring to anyone or anything they dislike as "socialist", even though it doesn't fit the actual definition 99% of the time.