Everyone sins but it doesn't change the fact that creation was deemed good since the beginning and doesn't change hurt the image of god status for humans. The only issue for humans is we have too much power as it is and don't use it wisely.
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Is there any other religion other than Christianity that is based on grace not works ?
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but you said I do not agree with the concept of sin ..you you are saying we all do sin ???
yes it was good , but Adam made the wrong choice and from then sin entered the world.
Inthedark
Member
Grace is an expression of selflessness isn't it? The gift with no strings attached or expectations, no self gratification, no pleasure, no thanks required etc. It is an example of how to live without ego, to have or emulate the "Christ Consciousness". I could be way off but it's how I like to think of it.
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
What on earth are you saying? Catholicism, Presbyterianism, and Lutheranism aren't mentioned in the Bible either.
Good grief. Do you seriously think you need to educate me on Mormonism? I am a 63-year old lifelong Mormon who knows her religion backwards and forwards.
The Book of Mormon is about Jesus Christ from beginning to end. I think you'd be wise to stick to explaining your own beliefs in the future, because when it comes to explaining the beliefs of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you really suck.
What on earth are you saying? Catholicism, Presbyterianism, and Lutheranism aren't mentioned in the Bible either.
Good grief. Do you seriously think you need to educate me on Mormonism? I am a 63-year old lifelong Mormon who knows her religion backwards and forwards.
The Book of Mormon is about Jesus Christ from beginning to end. I think you'd be wise to stick to explaining your own beliefs in the future, because when it comes to explaining the beliefs of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you really suck.
thanks for you kind words - but i follow the bible
mycorrhiza
Well-Known Member
Why do you choose the Bible as the only word of God? There are many other books on Jesus, and some of them might be older than the Gospels.
I didn't say I disagreed with the concept of sin. I said I disagree with the concept that humans can never do any good. You have to reconcile "humans are the image of god" with "no one is good except god". I see potential and that is good enough for me to think that works can lead to god.
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
For most revealed religions, the revelation is the product of grace. Without grace there is no revelation.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Really? Where does the Bible say it's okay to lie?
Shermana
Heretic
Pre-Pauline Christianity, the way Jesus actually taught (not that most "Christians' could care less what Jesus actually taught as opposed to their doctrines), was purely based on works.
"Work hard to enter the Kingdom"
"I will give each according to their works".
The anti-works Theology is a total indication that later Christian developments if anything promote a mentality that one can do anything they want and still be "saved", which is exactly what Jesus spoke against. And Jude. And James. And the author of the "peters". And heck, even Paul. For someone who taught about this doctrine of "grace", he sure stated who would and wouldn't enter the kingdom.
If you've been "jealous" or "angry" or a "Drunkard" or a "Fornicator", according to Paul, you won't go the kingdom. Not like most "Christians" actually care about what even Paul said on this matter.
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
His opening post is a standard comment made by evangelical Christians to show how Christianity is better then all other religions. They just fail to understand that only they believe in original sin. Others don't feel the need for that type of grace. They like to view themselves as having salvation while the rest of us are
working and just hoping for salvation that only they have. We have to work to be accepted by God, this is how our rituals and prays are seen by this type of fundamentalist.
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Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
Yes, but... I don't worry about that type of thing because of my personal relationship with God (in the words of your belief system).
wow you really do show your true nature ...again thanks for the kind words
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McBell
Unbound
You do realize that plagiarism is heavily frowned upon on this forum and is considered a form of lying, right?
McBell
Unbound
Nope.
But then I see sin as merely going against the will/wishes of your chosen deity.
"WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
sin
n 1: estrangement from god [syn: sin, sinfulness,
wickedness]
2: an act that is regarded by theologians as a transgression of
God's will [syn: sin, sinning]
3: ratio of the length of the side opposite the given angle to
the length of the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle [syn:
sine, sin]
4: (Akkadian) god of the Moon; counterpart of Sumerian Nanna
5: the 21st letter of the Hebrew alphabet
6: violent and excited activity; "they began to fight like sin"
[syn: sin, hell]
v 1: commit a sin; violate a law of God or a moral law [syn:
sin, transgress, trespass]
2: commit a faux pas or a fault or make a serious mistake; "I
blundered during the job interview" [syn: drop the ball,
sin, blunder, boob, goof]
Since there are those who do not have a chosen deity, they do not sin.sin
n 1: estrangement from god [syn: sin, sinfulness,
wickedness]
2: an act that is regarded by theologians as a transgression of
God's will [syn: sin, sinning]
3: ratio of the length of the side opposite the given angle to
the length of the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle [syn:
sine, sin]
4: (Akkadian) god of the Moon; counterpart of Sumerian Nanna
5: the 21st letter of the Hebrew alphabet
6: violent and excited activity; "they began to fight like sin"
[syn: sin, hell]
v 1: commit a sin; violate a law of God or a moral law [syn:
sin, transgress, trespass]
2: commit a faux pas or a fault or make a serious mistake; "I
blundered during the job interview" [syn: drop the ball,
sin, blunder, boob, goof]
McBell
Unbound
More specifically, you follow your favored interpretation of the Bible.
no the bible we have today is the inspired work of God , the books left out are not
you forgot to say in my opinion
McBell
Unbound
Yes, you are merely following your favorite interpretation of the Bible.
Nothing more, nothing less.
The problem is that there is more than one interpretation of the Bible.
Most of which are equally valid.
McBell
Unbound
No I didn't.
It is a fact that plagiarism is heavily frowned upon on this forum.
It is also a fact that plagiarism is a form of lying.
Perhaps you should go and give Wikipedia the credit for your copy/paste job in post #5?